Unfair ban for breach of Section 7 of our Terms of Use

Like i said veterans will call me liar. It was not a fresh account which was banned. Had it few years with supporter pack.

I stated that i did not use:
- macro for flasks or any other thing
- mause macro
- trade macro
- overlay

Maybe i should dedicate my time to posting shots from streamers using such programs.

You are putting me in the same bag like that guild with bots running as a members.
Maybe it was not a program, maybe my connection did disturb them.

Maybe it's pointles, maybe not.
I hope You will not get in my possition with all that money invested in game :D
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lagwin1980 wrote:
This might shock you, but since i don't cheat i don't get banned, and i've been doing that since 2012, through ALL the ban waves, and i'll remain unbanned since i don't feel the need to cheat in any form.


You also basically do not playing the game, going with your profile.
No guild, Level 73 means that likely no trades either.
Cannot be banned if your activity is mostly on forum.

Now look at this guy, who is a friend of mine:
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Neonatis555

He was banned at the start of league and then unbanned (which means the ban was applied wrong), which took around 2 weeks to resolve. At the time of the ban he and his friend were top 1 Delve, and this ban took them out of competition. Imagine what he felt being wrongfully banned and a league ruined for him? (You cannot realistically compete on a new account)

His friend he played with still got no answer and he was top 1 Delve in Harvest (https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2874960 - sort by depth). Their whole guild was nuked including SSF players and people who not logged in for months, even though one of the guild members could be a cheater, a guild leader cannot realistically watch over everyone, this puts you at risk of being banned just for the fact of being in a guild.

Another guy I heard of was banned and then unbanned (means GGG itself admitted it was wrong) because of being gifted a tabula from a friend. I often share small things with my friends or do a breachstone rotas, and things like that making me (and a lot of people) afraid of completely allowed in game activities.

There are plenty of people who got unbanned (check the threads here or the subreddit) without the ban being replaced with a "warning", so GGG itself admits that some bans were wrong.


So please stop the witch hunt, there is nothing constructive about calling people cheaters and trying to imply your superiority, it's the same as calling people scammers without proofs, and could be actualy harmful if the person in question is actually innocent.
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lagwin1980 wrote:
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abramkatak55 wrote:
True i did agree to them.

But what would you do if your account was pernament banned even if you don't use any cheats, programs, macros and such?

I feel cheated by ggg. Copy paste reply without explanation what exactly i have done is offensive.


This might shock you, but since i don't cheat i don't get banned, and i've been doing that since 2012, through ALL the ban waves, and i'll remain unbanned since i don't feel the need to cheat in any form.

Simple fact is that you were caught in the automated system (something that picks up abusive behaviours or detects programs running) and were banned, you appealed, that appeal was viewed by one or more persons and they agree that the ban was correct, they would rather not ban people but they are not going to let you get away with cheating (no matter if you spend money on the game)
And they don't specify what because it give YOU an idea what you would need to do to bypass future detection.

The thread is pointless, it won't change their minds, no one else will fight the case for you (nor could they).



Dont be too confident bro. They have changed something in their detections lately and 100% innocent people are getting banned for up to 2 weeks and some of those are getting their accounts back and some are not.

Would you like that account with all those supporter packs to be gone for 2 weeks in of a league that most people only play for 2 weeks to a month? And worry for that whole time that it will be permanent even though you didnt do anything?

Seems pretty scary if you ask me.
The likelihood most of them are innocent is pretty unlikely. Remember, we are talking about any violation throughout the history of the account. Just because you are ignorant of what caused the ban, doesn’t make you innocent. The exception being those caught up in guild bans. When a false ban does happen, you need to know what kind of actions may have caused it. If I go to a crafting service and get banned 2 days later, it would behoove me to get my ducks in a row and mention it in my appeal email. I agree it sucks, but that is the risk-price we pay for GGG to try and get a handle on botting.
Got Banned yesterday for "Useing thrid party" < I only used AHK which performed only 1 server-side action per button press!

Account Age 7 Years!
Multiple lvl 100 Chars

Reply to the appeal:

This account closure is permanent, and will not be reviewed further. Any further correspondence about the closure of this account may not be replied to by our team.
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abramkatak55 wrote:
Hello there,

Sad story,


Now having a second account and playing the same way by not using any third party program should i be scare of getting baned? I did invest in my main account, tabs and such. Now i did lose all of that for playing honest?

I know the veterans will come to get me that i'm laying...
Ofcourse there will be no aswer from ggg. Becouse they don't talk about this topics. My account was deleted...
To be honest it's shocking...
Need to be a streamer this days...




yes you willl get ban again bc ggg never want people know whats the reeason of ban now you have to pay them support them again again for play game and at the end get ban again again
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Banned_for_using_AHK wrote:
Got Banned yesterday for "Useing thrid party" < I only used AHK which performed only 1 server-side action per button press!

Account Age 7 Years!
Multiple lvl 100 Chars

Reply to the appeal:

This account closure is permanent, and will not be reviewed further. Any further correspondence about the closure of this account may not be replied to by our team.


I wonder, when the banwave will start for streamers using logout macros. They wouldn't even need some kind of detection software.
"The master has failed more times than the beginner has even tried." - Stephen McCranie
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cursedtofeel wrote:
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abramkatak55 wrote:
Hello there,

Sad story,


Now having a second account and playing the same way by not using any third party program should i be scare of getting baned? I did invest in my main account, tabs and such. Now i did lose all of that for playing honest?

I know the veterans will come to get me that i'm laying...
Ofcourse there will be no aswer from ggg. Becouse they don't talk about this topics. My account was deleted...
To be honest it's shocking...
Need to be a streamer this days...




yes you willl get ban again bc ggg never want people know whats the reeason of ban now you have to pay them support them again again for play game and at the end get ban again again


In which country do you life? If it is in the EU, you just could make a request according to GDPR Art 15.
"The master has failed more times than the beginner has even tried." - Stephen McCranie
On a side note, am I allowed to use filters? I haven't put any in because Im scared. But its allowed? Also i did a quick search in the forum to see whats allowed and whats not. I am un sure about the filters...

if you really didn't do anything wrong you will be unbanned. Took them a week or less to un ban me. No idea what happened and they didnt want to explain which is fine. no hard feelings. im glad they are hunting down bots and cheaters.

Hope you get un banned.

cheers
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L00tgobliN wrote:
On a side note, am I allowed to use filters? I haven't put any in because Im scared. But its allowed? Also i did a quick search in the forum to see whats allowed and whats not. I am un sure about the filters...


If you mean the Loot Filter, then obviously you're allowed to use it. You have an option to choose a loot filter in the game client itself, and also an online filter option on official web site.

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