so the patch is actualy a nerf

imagine 2 types of basic contract`s..one is like now,you can save your loot before lockdown and play with all the time you want (casual contract),and then theres the more rewarding elite contract with immidiate lockdown like in the unique contracts...but instead of the end of the run you get the artefact at the start and try to secure it to a exit....the pressure level would be much higher cause only 1 try to do the heist..and finishing a heist would be more satisfying too =D

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voronius wrote:

Because :
1) nerfed "time before cooldown" on rogues

2) more "time before cooldown" spent on opening chests (1s before, 3s now) so even if they are closer you can only open so many

3) scarabs can now drop from chests and that pretty sure means less chance for valuable things to drop

We waited 3 weeks for a fix that's actualy a nerf !
GG GGG !

Buff 10 things and scale back 3 things.

Literally doubling reward from lots of chests: I literally got 3 pairs of tailsman with exactly the same stat (including rolls) from one chest.

Smaller heist, denser reward rooms, cheaper grand heist reveal, etc.

Now you see 3 tiny "scalebacks" and you call this patch a nerf.

Think about it.

GGG open the floodgates, what are you playing? RETENTION IS BAD ECONOMY IS BAD!
it's getting worse and worse, you kill the game, listen to the old gamers damn it!

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NeoG wrote:

GGG open the floodgates, what are you playing? RETENTION IS BAD ECONOMY IS BAD!
it's getting worse and worse, you kill the game, listen to the old gamers damn it!

Floodgates are already open. Harvest effect again. Loot pinata league with exp to boot.

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colossalaiur wrote:

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voronius wrote:

Because :
1) nerfed "time before cooldown" on rogues

2) more "time before cooldown" spent on opening chests (1s before, 3s now) so even if they are closer you can only open so many

3) scarabs can now drop from chests and that pretty sure means less chance for valuable things to drop

We waited 3 weeks for a fix that's actualy a nerf !
GG GGG !

Buff 10 things and scale back 3 things.

Literally doubling reward from lots of chests: I literally got 3 pairs of tailsman with exactly the same stat (including rolls) from one chest.

Smaller heist, denser reward rooms, cheaper grand heist reveal, etc.

Now you see 3 tiny "scalebacks" and you call this patch a nerf.

Think about it.

You got 3 of the same junk item, and are calling that a buff? Is that meant to be a joke? That's the reward you want, mirrored talismans? Amazing

Seeing this patch as a nerf is as short sighted as it gets.

Hmmm. All I can say is that I am finishing more heists opening all chests before locktime, so I have lost that; "lockdown" can I open three chests on the way to the last chest before I am locked out challenge. Tini bit more boring. Guess due to less rooms, doors.
But that doesn't really matter since small chests are pretty much a complete waste of time still and starting to just not bother. Get more bang for (time) buck that way.

Don't shoot me, but still think the first iteration, where killing guards added to lockdown and all chest rewards were actually worth something still the best experience for me (minus the crashes of course).

Well, i think this league is pretty great now. One shots still happen, but thats on me. Rest seems to be fine or better!

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Rekt_that wrote:

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colossalaiur wrote:

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voronius wrote:

Because :
1) nerfed "time before cooldown" on rogues

2) more "time before cooldown" spent on opening chests (1s before, 3s now) so even if they are closer you can only open so many

3) scarabs can now drop from chests and that pretty sure means less chance for valuable things to drop

We waited 3 weeks for a fix that's actualy a nerf !
GG GGG !

Buff 10 things and scale back 3 things.

Literally doubling reward from lots of chests: I literally got 3 pairs of tailsman with exactly the same stat (including rolls) from one chest.

Smaller heist, denser reward rooms, cheaper grand heist reveal, etc.

Now you see 3 tiny "scalebacks" and you call this patch a nerf.

Think about it.

You got 3 of the same junk item, and are calling that a buff? Is that meant to be a joke? That's the reward you want, mirrored talismans? Amazing

first of all, are you calling tailsman junk now? They are pre-rolled with better stats, and comes with free anointment. How much potential value is that?

Also not everything you get is junk. double junk is nothing, but double exalt is double exalt.

The potential value is low because you can't benchcraft it.

The potential for double exalt was higher before the patch, due to better loot in smaller chests. Small chests are more common than large. Do you even know the definition of the word nerf?