Third PSU to blow up while playing PoE over the last 7 yrs... Coincidence or not?

I get what you're saying with other games also plausibly creating a similar situation - the reason I'd be willing to believe PoE specifically played a role is that coding errors aren't unheard of (see patch notes for any league) and as far as overall strain is concerned PoE specifically stresses hardware more than it should.

Considering most major releases can take years, maintaining a 3 month cycle means there's never enough time to truly polish before the next build is in development.

In a sense, I'm basically saying that running PoE under normal low to medium conditions is like running most other games at much more extreme settings.

If it was just literal surges in the AC (which is also very possible) I would blame a lack of surge protection/suppression in between AC and PSU or maybe just really nasty surges on occasion in that area. But I'd still lean towards hardware failure from excessive heat. When playing a specific game generates so much heat you feel the ambient temperature jump so much higher to stand out against other games its at least worth considering.

thanks guys... You put into words better how I feel than I ever could. English is not my native language.

It is likely the wiring in the house and age of the psu (3yrs). But yeah, what I wanted to say was PoE runs "hotter" than most other software I use, like the point pointed out in the previous reply. So was curious if that implied the game drawing more power than the other less graphic-intensive games I play. But now I understand that only a OC software/BIOS setting can potentially adjust the voltage drawn. I've done that before actually but this system does not have Afterburner installed currently, nothing OCed.

I do have surge protection. I think that was the reason the other devices are still alive. -_-"

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fraggleroc wrote:

This HanSoloDK guy tried to justify for GGG on another thread about a ruined SSD...

either he's some associate of GGG or damage control sent by them on these forums to discredit all the effects of the game on our hardware...

And we just found out that the SSD vendor have a track record of problems with his SSD's. So again, nothing to do with PoE.

To be fair SSDs only became practical in the last 5-10 years and before that any software that would continuously write/rewrite data was bad juju.

Unlike a PSU, or graphics adapter or even older ide/sata hdd there should be no moving parts. That and combined with the large number of vendors now retailing ssds without a long history of producing hard drives like western digital, seagate or even ibm, you're more likely to run in to problems. Right now you can even pick up a small ssd for less than 20 USD.

And yet even with big brand names you can still run into trouble. Years ago I picked up an external usb powered 120gb western digital that failed right out of the box that would sound like it was beeping as it failed to initially spin up. While it was a pain to RMA, they made the process as painless as possible.

Try out if there is no fluctuation in energy/electricity that are provided to your PC.

Sometimes there are too many houses connected to line and when all starts to drain a lot of energy, you are given for example 210-235 Volts. And those fluctuation can burn your PSU. If thats the case, your energy provider maybe can solve that, if not, you try to put PC to another "phase" (dont know word - there are 3 "phase" connected to your home).

Ohterwise solution can be to get: "Line-interactive UPS systems use automatic voltage regulation (AVR) to correct abnormal voltages without switching to battery."

It can be seen on light bulbs that "shimmering" when you watch them closely, for some it can be seen clearly.

ps: I dont believe game can fry your GPU, its "almost" impossible. There are 3 ways how you can fry chip, but with regards to games it is impossible.

Dude, if your PSU is blowing then you are very likely that it is poorly maintained or underpowered.
I've had the same PSU in a system for damn near the full 8 years, with multiple installs of windows, and other hardware, playing PoE and other games with no problems.

At a guess you are sitting on the cusp of utilizing all the watts the PSU has to offer, causing the fan in it to ramp up and suck dust in around the components and that is causing it to start over heating, or you are possibly overloading it.

And the game wouldn't damage an SSD, literally the game data sits on it, gets loaded to ram, then at worst of an SSD it gets written to on patching but even a few years old SSD will be able to handle years of writes.

GAME SILL NOT HARM YOUR HARDWARE...no coding errors will harm it.

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lagwin1980 wrote:

Dude, if your PSU is blowing then you are very likely that it is poorly maintained or underpowered.
I've had the same PSU in a system for damn near the full 8 years, with multiple installs of windows, and other hardware, playing PoE and other games with no problems.

At a guess you are sitting on the cusp of utilizing all the watts the PSU has to offer, causing the fan in it to ramp up and suck dust in around the components and that is causing it to start over heating, or you are possibly overloading it.

And the game wouldn't damage an SSD, literally the game data sits on it, gets loaded to ram, then at worst of an SSD it gets written to on patching but even a few years old SSD will be able to handle years of writes.

GAME SILL NOT HARM YOUR HARDWARE...no coding errors will harm it.

Yes I know all that u said.

I'm merely presenting what has happened as it happened to me.

that said, how many hardware failures has to occur, that coincide with playing this game compared to other games, are required to prove maybe a few questionable coding?

This can only be a bad coincidence, your system (i5 + GTX 1060) cannot use much more than 200w even if the cpu and gpu were at 100% for hours (benchmarking, computing, playing an ultra power hungry game, whatever).

Your 850w seasonic should have lasted for years. It's a very good brand.
My PSU is a 500w from 2012, currently with a GTX 1080 and a ryzen 2600 (so under 300w).

A failing computer should not trip an entire house, this would worry me.

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fraggleroc wrote:

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lagwin1980 wrote:

Dude, if your PSU is blowing then you are very likely that it is poorly maintained or underpowered.
I've had the same PSU in a system for damn near the full 8 years, with multiple installs of windows, and other hardware, playing PoE and other games with no problems.

At a guess you are sitting on the cusp of utilizing all the watts the PSU has to offer, causing the fan in it to ramp up and suck dust in around the components and that is causing it to start over heating, or you are possibly overloading it.

And the game wouldn't damage an SSD, literally the game data sits on it, gets loaded to ram, then at worst of an SSD it gets written to on patching but even a few years old SSD will be able to handle years of writes.

GAME SILL NOT HARM YOUR HARDWARE...no coding errors will harm it.

Yes I know all that u said.

I'm merely presenting what has happened as it happened to me.

that said, how many hardware failures has to occur, that coincide with playing this game compared to other games, are required to prove maybe a few questionable coding?

You are not listening to anyone. Games, no matter how coded - cannot damage a power supply. Do you understand that? There are malicious pieces of software written deliberately to damage someone's GPU, there a simple single line of code that if executed would kill a hard disk drive, and there are tons of different malicious software pieces that can put a full load on your CPU which would constantly cause BSOD. But there is no software that can alter a power supplie's circuitry so that it would blow up or simply stop working. None.

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fraggleroc wrote:

that said, how many hardware failures has to occur, that coincide with playing this game compared to other games, are required to prove maybe a few questionable coding?

The problem with that argument is that there are any number of people that have been playing the game just as long, that have never blown out a power supply. For example, I've had a single supply in my system for 3 motherboards now, over the course of... 8 years I think? I've played POE during that period. My supply is fine.


So, it isn't he game itself or there'd be a class action lawsuit.

If POE is triggering it, it's because of environmental factors... bad electrical supply from the power company is possible but could also be dust causing a blanket to build up over time and burn things out. If not stressed, little heat... if pulling down some wattage, more heat that needs to be dissipated... and if the blanket doesn't let that happen, things start breaking down.

I'd consider an air purifier in your room, and a good UPS with voltage regulation.