So inspiration for the league came from a movie? ...ok.
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This just in.
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" A lot of games are influenced by movies, series and other pop-culture areas. A LOT, whether or not the developers are making it public or not. The same goes for movies and series, being influenced by games. You don't need examples. It goes without saying - buuuuut, I'll bite. Max Payne comes to mind, introducing slow-motion gunplay, published in the aftermath of Matrix and Equilibrium. Blade Runner's dystopian setting has also been an influence for many games. Developers of Tomb Raider have been open about their influence of Indiana Jones. So "Netflix Habits"? I don't care what platforms they watch their movies on, but yes, movies influenced by games and games influenced by movies happens every day. Hell, some mivies have been influenced by songs. And paintings. Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile. Last edited by Phrazz#3529 on Sep 3, 2020, 5:24:25 PM
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" Writers, whether writing novels, movie scripts, video games, etc. take inspiration from everything around them. And by "take inspiration" I mean steal ideas. It seems like you don't approve, but I'm not sure why. Shakespeare took old stories and updated them for the audiences of his time. Many of the movies and songs I like are remakes from earlier generations. I can't count how many stories are "The Hero's Journey" archetype with different settings and characters. It's interesting but pretty much since the ancient Greeks invented theater, they've been recycling stories. |
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" Ok that's not where I was going with this, or what the article was even getting at. Of course other artist influence and inspire other artists. Developers are in fact, people, and the world influences them. Its clear how many arpgs were influenced by Diablo, or how many games were influenced by D&D, LOTR, other works of literature, comics, and more. I get this. That wasn't my point...at all. To spend 3 months (or more depending on their normal development windows), and presumably hundreds of thousands of dollars, because you saw a movie seems a bit much, but w/e. I didn't intend for this to be some deep discussion on the roots of artistic influence. Who knows, maybe Chris will watch the Twilight series and we will get a vampire themed league. "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln Last edited by DarthSki44#6905 on Sep 3, 2020, 5:52:23 PM
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If no other games are using movies as inspiration, isn't it great that GGG is? Seems like an ocean of untapped inspiration if that's true.
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" No fucking shit. I like to focus on the documentaries to get into the mood. They at least can be inspiring and encouraging (the Go one and the Speed Cubers one both raised my spirits a little), when they're not trying to be utter trash no names mentioned Tiger King. " Knowing what little I know, I can say without doubt that just because Chris watched something, that doesn't mean you'll get a league themed around it. And for this you should be immensely thankful. I didn't read the article but I suspect something else pertinent here is that for the vast majority of his appointment as GGG's Managing director/Lead developer/CEO/Spell checker/Fishing troll/patch notes writer/midnight coder/bot-slayer, Chris didn't have time to just sit and watch Netflix. So for a PoE league to be overtly influenced/inspired by him watching a movie is indeed unusual. Also, damn dude. These hostile responses! I see nothing accusatory or inflammatory or even vaguely contentious in what you said, but at least half the responses are outright defensive for no justifiable reason. Perhaps that, too, sums up 2020 perfectly. edit: Okay, I read the article. It doesn't actually say they got inspiration from watching a movie, just that they turned to netflix for ideas. That could be nothing more than trawling the menu and maybe reading a wiki entry when something takes their fancy. I can't say I'm impressed that they've somehow resorted to this sort of deliberate idea-fishing and are happy to admit it as though knowing no one really thought they were all that imaginative to begin with, but eh, whatever works. People have already said in another thread that the lore doesn't even have to make sense because 'it's just a game', so with players that easily satisfied, it's little wonder TencentGGG aren't busting their gut coming up with original league ideas or going to any pains to hide the superficial nature of the inspiration. " Absolutely. The trick is to do it your own way and somehow make their old your new, so that when you point out your inspirations, people are actually surprised or, even better, nonchalant. Equally enjoyable is when someone points out an inspiration you yourself didn't realise -- this is very Campbellian, I suppose, all that business about the Monomyth and whatever. Plagiarism might be for lazy whores, but every creative artist is cryptomnesia's bitch sooner or later. I think when you realise you've succumbed to it, you have to just own it and go with it. Who knows, maybe it'll take you somewhere genuinely new...and if not, chances are you won't know it anyway! :) As regards Heist, I think this is somewhere between the two. They're not outright copying any one plot/story (the trailer is as much Ritchie as it is Soderbergh, with a sprinkling of Entrapment), but it's far too deliberate and structurally similar to be cryptomnesia. Once you've established your own world as with Wræclast, you're more than welcome to do 'done things' in it. As the article points out, you've already played a sort of Pokémon (Bestiary) and Stardew Valley (Harvest) by way of PoE, so why not a sort of Ocean's Eleven? If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between. I am Path of Exile's biggest whale. Period. Last edited by Foreverhappychan#4626 on Sep 4, 2020, 2:54:38 AM
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they should play more path of exile and less watch some movies
i remember there was a stream with chris and jonathan was seeting in the back playing some platformer. like wtf, you have Your game, why dont you play it? maybe because it sucks? dead game
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" I briefly worked for a game company about 10 years ago, and we were constantly playing other genre games because when you're testing the same shit day in day out it stops being fun very quickly. |
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" For some reason, people can't grasp that things made for fun for others might not be fun for the people whose job it is to make it. I find this incredibly short-sighted but eh. Few developers give as much of their lives to one game as Chris has over the years; PoE is absolutely his baby. Even now when someone else technically owns PoE he's like the world's most tenacious helicopter parent. It is an insult when a mere player even suggests that he hasn't given enough, that he should play his own game more. Do these same people think the CEO of coca cola drinks lots of coke? Or that the top dogs at McDonald's regularly eat Big Macs and Happy Meals? Ridiculous. Also, 'maybe because it sucks' would hold a little more weight if you didn't have 15 achievements in the most recent league, Tainted. The game might suck, but it's apparently sucked you in along with it. If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between. I am Path of Exile's biggest whale. Period. Last edited by Foreverhappychan#4626 on Sep 4, 2020, 4:42:27 AM
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" " The inspiration comes from Stardew Valley or WoW:MoP - Halfhill market. Either way, the devs played some farm similator prior the last league (Harvest) as an inspiration. The next league (Heist) reminds me of the old Crusader (No regret/remorse) games, in regards of alert states. Masterpiece of 3.16 lore
"A mysterious figure appears out of nowhere, trying to escape from something you can't see. She hands you a rusty-looking device called the Blood Crucible and urges you to implant it into your body." Only usable with Ethanol Flasks |
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