feeling of fundamental disappointment

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Antigegner wrote:

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Look at this:



This     Chimeric Song, Void Sceptre is an uber strong weapon that is designated for sirius content and i bought it for 8 exa and was greatly disappointed when i found out that the damage of this uber weapon equates to



if to say extremely clear this uber weapon Chimeric Song in aspect of power equates to weapon that can be dressed on just 30th level of the character.

We need more powerful gears that can be dressed on character of 80, 85, 90, 95 and 100th level else i lose interest to POE on 80th level

In this aspect- can you find for this thread a rare body armour that corresponds to 90th character level??



despite my text i don't assert anything because I don't know the truth.

I was doing uber atziri a few leagues ago with tabula rasa.
It's all about affixes and gems and skill tree.

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Außenseiter wrote:

I was doing uber atziri a few leagues ago with tabula rasa.
It's all about affixes and gems and skill tree.

Thank you for your feedaback

Your opinion only partly has relation to the thread

1. Can you kill sirius or uber elder with tabula rasa??
2. I don't believe that you have no good weapon, did you kill uber atziri without any weapon sockeded???
3. I am 50 years old and my reflexes are very slow. May be you are just 40 years old with extremely quick reflexes

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Staglaitor_ wrote:

Spoiler

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Außenseiter wrote:

I was doing uber atziri a few leagues ago with tabula rasa.
It's all about affixes and gems and skill tree.

Thank you for your feedaback

Your opinion only partly has relation to the thread

1. Can you kill sirius or uber elder with tabula rasa??
2. I don't believe that you have no good weapon, did you kill uber atziri without any weapon sockeded???
3. I am 50 years old and my reflexes are very slow. May be you are just 40 years old with extremely quick reflexes

What he's trying to say is that contrary to other ARPGs, the itemization in PoE is more dependent on the item affixes than on item level.

Most "relevant build enabling" uniques are set to be worn AFTER you reach a minimum level (say 60 - 75), as then you will use them to progress through the grind for the next 35 - 25 levels.

It would be disappointing to have items requiring > 75 level, as most players tend to stop grinding levels at ~95 (the last 5 are atrocious regarding EXP gain penalty, and the death EXP penalty has too much impact into deleting progression then).

That's why you have lenient level requirements on gear.

Killing Uber Atziri with a Tabula Rasa as your chest, or Uber Elder or Awakening 8 Sirus can be done, but most players prefer the comfort of running a decent "AFFIX" wise chest piece, as the only redeeming quality of the Tabula is the 6W sockets LINKED by default - which are then used to obtain the most of a skill + 5 supports with the proper skill tree setup.

Using a Tabula also means you are "glass canony" by default, so you focus on "nuking" all enemies (yes, even Uber Atziri/Elder or Aw 8 Sirus can be "phased" to the next part of the encounter IF you have the right amount of damage), while also using all other equipment to get just enough survivability to get by...

I hope I explained it decently enough for you to consider the item stats as the MANDATORY item values that actually make it's WORTH - that is why mirrorable items are worth their price for those T1 affixes combinations...

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sofocle10000 wrote:

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Thank you for your precious feedback

I know english just for 75% so i couldn't understand any of your thoughts - can you explain them in other word pls??

1. "What he's trying to say is that contrary to other ARPGs, the itemization in PoE is more dependent on the item affixes than on item level. "

I understand that you used word: - MORE but - Do you reject gear progress??? If try to understand your thought that i can suppose that any gear of level 1,2,3,5,10 is as powerful as gear of 75 level.
I don't think so.

Gear progress depends on that level of the characer that is demanded in gear describption that means that more high chatacter level more powerful gear it can wear. Yes, i aknowladge affixes but you should not reject concepton that - for the most part - gears of level 75 are more powerful that gears of level 1. Isn't it???

2. what do you mean by affixes term??. May be they are just properties of a any gear???

3. "It would be disappointing to have items requiring > 75 level, as most players tend to stop grinding levels at ~95"

This thought sounds contradictory.

if you see that player plays just upto 95th level and don't play upto 100th level that it means that player needs gears that can be worn on 95 level because it will stimulate them to resume playing since any gear of 95 level is a reward for hard labour of grinding

I got accustomed to be rewarded in the form of new fresh gear during play from first character level to 75th and then - after - for example 80th level - i feel "drug withdrawal" since GGG deprives me from fun of getting new gear and it repeats on level 90, 95 and 100 as i suppose.

What do you think about withdrawal in aspect of this thread???

Lemme try and explain this to the OP since I've played almost all of ARPG. As other stated in this thread, POE items are about affixes and not so much about item level.

In D3 there is level cap of 70, and there are items that are tied to the level progression - you unlock different types of armour/weapons when you reach certain level tresholds. That is the thing you are looking for in POE and will not find it.

There is item progression in POE but it relates to the affix tier roll probability. For instance - the highest life rolls (T1 roll) can be achieved on armour ilvl 86 and not under that. Under that ilvl you get weaker rolls.

So, there is gear progression, it just isn't tied to your character level as you would like it to be (like in D3 for instance). Don't ask for POE to be something it isn't (as ppl have told me in other threads).

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Staglaitor_ wrote:

Spoiler

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sofocle10000 wrote:

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Thank you for your precious feedback

I know english just for 75% so i couldn't understand any of your thoughts - can you explain them in other word pls??

1. "What he's trying to say is that contrary to other ARPGs, the itemization in PoE is more dependent on the item affixes than on item level. "

I understand that you used word: - MORE but - Do you reject gear progress??? If try to understand your thought that i can suppose that any gear of level 1,2,3,5,10 is as powerful as gear of 75 level.
I don't think so.

Gear progress depends on that level of the characer that is demanded in gear describption that means that more high chatacter level more powerful gear it can wear. Yes, i aknowladge affixes but you should not reject concepton that - for the most part - gears of level 75 are more powerful that gears of level 1. Isn't it???

2. what do you mean by affixes term??. May be they are just properties of a any gear???

3. "It would be disappointing to have items requiring > 75 level, as most players tend to stop grinding levels at ~95"

This thought sounds contradictory.

if you see that player plays just upto 95th level and don't play upto 100th level that it means that player needs gears that can be worn on 95 level because it will stimulate them to resume playing since any gear of 95 level is a reward for hard labour of grinding

I got accustomed to be rewarded in the form of new fresh gear during play from first character level to 75th and then - after - for example 80th level - i feel "drug withdrawal" since GGG deprives me from fun of getting new gear and it repeats on level 90, 95 and 100 as i suppose.

What do you think about withdrawal in aspect of this thread???

First of all, make sure to check the detailed item description in the UI.

Second, let me be clear that the item level differs from the item level requirement in PoE.

Base = a worthwhile item that can be crafted with the highest affixes, usually with an item level >84.

Affix = property of the item, these make all the difference in PoE.

Now, let's get on point:

1. The item level goes up to 100 too. The benefits though, are the tiers of affix - prefix/suffix (each item can have AT MOST 3 prefixes and 3 suffixes) - which can get to T0/T1 for higher item level bases - you will never see an item level 1 with T1 affixes, because they are unavailable for it.

2. The item level requirement is set to offer gear progression, and they stopped at 75 (which is wrong, you can get item level 84-86 uniques quite easily) but the problem is the progression of this value does little to improve the item - contrary to other ARPGs, where getting an item level 95 is better than one of level 85, BY DEFAULT VALUES, the impact in PoE is lessened as they don't matter - as long as you get an item with a level of >84, you're "golden".

Gear progression amounts directly into higher values on items, even though they might be with a lesser item level than 100, their affix values (bigger numbers = BETTER) gives them their WORTH.

In conclusion, gear progression in PoE is measured regarding the values of the item mods and their synergy - 3 high value physical prefixes on a weapon, followed by at least a high value attack speed makes the item "good", while having the biggest values makes the item "perfect", though it also needs "perfection" and "synergy" on all item mods...

For TencentGGG, rare items are the end game goal, with uniques as worthwhile alternatives depending on situation...

The way the gear work right now discourage frequent gear changing. do you have dozen of ex to throw away each 5 levels so you can get an upgrade that isn't just 1 socket?

Hopefully that will change (maybe) with poe 2 when gem system is independent of gears.

I guess @OP account status answers some of the "questions" here...... :(

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HanSoloDK wrote:

I guess @OP account status answers some of the "questions" here...... :(

This person Ydoum is banned as well
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Ydoum

If you followed the conversation, you would understand what the point is


Ydoum had insulted OP and this op is no a whipping boy, any person should not swallow an insult, so OP fighted back not to ramain insulted

The code of conduct on this forum has long been outdated because it prohibits self-defense so OP was banned.

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