Harvest league might be the best league ever.

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Nephalim wrote:

I've been playing for 5 years and harvest is one of the best if not the best leagues GGG has ever put out.

There is joy in being able to self craft and self refine gear that has never existed in this form before. Being able to self gear without trading during the leveling process is also another huge plus.

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If you are talking about SSF then I totally agree. This was a game changer. But in trade league Harvest is easily the most tedious boring league ever. I'm not saying it is the worst because most of the early leagues were so-so and the base game has improved 10x over the years. I just wish that Harvest didn't come out during the pandemic when I wanted to play alot. So Harvest is indeed the best SSF league and way way way worse than any recent trade league.

Seems like traders are realizing just now that trading pretty much ruins the game. It's not the league. It's the mode that you're playing it in.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

Seems like traders are realizing just now that trading pretty much ruins the game. It's not the league. It's the mode that you're playing it in.

I'm going to be called out because I am playing trade league, but for as much as it's popular to say that this game will never be balanced around SSF, the actual reality is that this game was not balanced around trade and trade does much more to imbalance the game.

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VolcanoElixir wrote:

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Shagsbeard wrote:

Seems like traders are realizing just now that trading pretty much ruins the game. It's not the league. It's the mode that you're playing it in.

I'm going to be called out because I am playing trade league, but for as much as it's popular to say that this game will never be balanced around SSF, the actual reality is that this game was not balanced around trade and trade does much more to imbalance the game.

It's a personal preference. SSF is pretty sparse. I like it that way. Struggle to get stuff. Set goals accordingly.

Trade though, and you really have to give up the right to complain about how boring the game is.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

Trade though, and you really have to give up the right to complain about how boring the game is.

Some people find satisfaction in saving up currency to buy an upgrade.

Some people find satisfaction in playing by themselves to create their own upgrade.

Both can be extremely rewarding, and both are perfectly fine. It depends on the player

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girng wrote:

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Shagsbeard wrote:

Trade though, and you really have to give up the right to complain about how boring the game is.

Some people find satisfaction in saving up currency to buy an upgrade.

this league there is no currency. thats the biggest issue. i'm almost level 95 and still 0 exalt.

Id rather still be continuosly be getting blown up by god knows what in Delerium right now than keep playing this shit show.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

Seems like traders are realizing just now that trading pretty much ruins the game. It's not the league. It's the mode that you're playing it in.

Weird thing to say since THE Trade League is meant to be a Parent League... not reduced significantly to the lvls of SSF sub option.

If THE League for which such mechanics are meant for is the wrong mode, that is not a player "problem" more so a design oversight to be polite.

League / mechanic - sub options / sub option opt outs

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Acolina87 wrote:

It's so damn fun, crafting and juicing and oh making my own shit i love it! What do you guys think?

It's been a long time since i felt like playing all the time.

Not fun,feels like cheating with all those targeted augments(exalt) and annul mods

There is no way this is going core

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Regyoulator81 wrote:

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Shagsbeard wrote:

Seems like traders are realizing just now that trading pretty much ruins the game. It's not the league. It's the mode that you're playing it in.

Weird thing to say since THE Trade League is meant to be a Parent League... not reduced significantly to the lvls of SSF sub option.

If THE League for which such mechanics are meant for is the wrong mode, that is not a player "problem" more so a design oversight to be polite.

League / mechanic - sub options / sub option opt outs

The only reason this league isn't as much of a trading league as it should be is because you can't trade things like storage tanks or horticrafting stations which I can only assume is a technical reason. Otherwise trading is still useful for buying seeds, flowers, or particular bases to craft on. Not to mention you can still easily buy things like uniques that enable characters that normally can take time to get in SSF. It's mainly currency trading that's far less important (a good thing IMO).