GGG is now doing all legit players a dis-service by keeping PoE 100% Free-to-play.,

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Mythreindeer wrote:

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Foreverhappychan wrote:

PoE being free-to-play is definitely part of why I quit after paying roughly $30,000USD.

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So it should come as no surprise that I'm happier playing an objectively inferior offline game that I've paid for and am not 'expected' to keep paying for, in which I can dye and skin my characters with in-game currency and not worry about the meta or the devs constantly fiddle-arsing with the stats because it's how they keep the addicts coming back, than keep putting money into what long ago revealed itself to me to be a carefully-calibrated tap on a certain type of gamer's wallet.

The real miracle is that gamers so willingly and repeatedly pay for MTX in a game overwhelmingly played solo just to obnoxiously stand around "in town" hopelessly anonymous. Guess I'm from a different time or something.

That said, I don't fault them their model. It's clearly hugely successful though I honestly don't get the compulsion to voluntary spend relatively large amounts of money on fluff in order "support the devs." That's on the players though, at least IMO.

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Mythreindeer wrote:

The real miracle is that gamers so willingly and repeatedly pay for MTX in a game overwhelmingly played solo just to obnoxiously stand around "in town" hopelessly anonymous. Guess I'm from a different time or something.

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ArtCrusade wrote:

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Mythreindeer wrote:

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Foreverhappychan wrote:

PoE being free-to-play is definitely part of why I quit after paying roughly $30,000USD.

*snip*

So it should come as no surprise that I'm happier playing an objectively inferior offline game that I've paid for and am not 'expected' to keep paying for, in which I can dye and skin my characters with in-game currency and not worry about the meta or the devs constantly fiddle-arsing with the stats because it's how they keep the addicts coming back, than keep putting money into what long ago revealed itself to me to be a carefully-calibrated tap on a certain type of gamer's wallet.

The real miracle is that gamers so willingly and repeatedly pay for MTX in a game overwhelmingly played solo just to obnoxiously stand around "in town" hopelessly anonymous. Guess I'm from a different time or something.

That said, I don't fault them their model. It's clearly hugely successful though I honestly don't get the compulsion to voluntary spend relatively large amounts of money on fluff in order "support the devs." That's on the players though, at least IMO.

I don't see why your comment has any relevancy to the forum and why you felt the need to write it. Many people, myself included, by MTX for themselves. They'r ean enhancement to how the game feels and looks like. Why do you think there's hideout MTX? Why do you think there's skill MTX? Why do you think there's herald MTX? You can't see those in towns.

Pointless.

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Foreverhappychan wrote:

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Mythreindeer wrote:

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Foreverhappychan wrote:

PoE being free-to-play is definitely part of why I quit after paying roughly $30,000USD.

*snip*

So it should come as no surprise that I'm happier playing an objectively inferior offline game that I've paid for and am not 'expected' to keep paying for, in which I can dye and skin my characters with in-game currency and not worry about the meta or the devs constantly fiddle-arsing with the stats because it's how they keep the addicts coming back, than keep putting money into what long ago revealed itself to me to be a carefully-calibrated tap on a certain type of gamer's wallet.

The real miracle is that gamers so willingly and repeatedly pay for MTX in a game overwhelmingly played solo just to obnoxiously stand around "in town" hopelessly anonymous. Guess I'm from a different time or something.

That said, I don't fault them their model. It's clearly hugely successful though I honestly don't get the compulsion to voluntary spend relatively large amounts of money on fluff in order "support the devs." That's on the players though, at least IMO.

This is an interesting point. I remember when the game didn't even have mtxes. It had two tiny instanced towns. No hideouts. Heck, it didn't even have stash tab beyond the built in 4. So when it was touted that cosmetic mtxes would drive the vast bulk of the sales in the cash shop, I was genuinely baffled. I'd played free to play MMOs, really insidious fuckers, where cosmetic mtxes were indeed very popular and very expensive -- and there were giant towns where people could preen and pose with them. PoE had nothing like that, and it didn't seem like it would ever have anything like that.

Fast forward a little bit and suddenly you could see multiple diamond kiwis in Lioneye's Watch at any given time. It seemed like they'd never go away. It was charming because we felt a camaraderie but it was never about the pets themselves. It was what they represented. We knew we were the vanguard for something that was going to get very big.

A few years later and there wasn't a diamond kiwi to be seen. Instead it was...horrendously bad armour skins, obnoxious amulet effects and wings. Giant fucking glowing things that made Diablo 3 look reserved and dull. Dude, you can't even zoom in on someone else's model unless you stand right next to them. You can't inspect their costumes. And then they're gone, off to their own private Wraeclast instances.

I know why I collected and used mtxes. It was for personal customisation, and very rarely to 'show off'. My favourite mtxes were the skin transfer and more realistic stuff like the Gryffon armour set. But I do the exact same thing in other games, solo games as much as multiplayer, just for what the snide kids like call 'muh immersions'. I've done it since Neverwinter Nights 1. I dunno, they're called roleplaying games, and I like to treat them as such. I create themes for the characters, try to dress them up to match. No one should ever be under the impression that RPGs aren't all about dressing up, one way or another. ARPGs sort of veer away from that though, and have only recently started to dabble in the realm of MMO-level costumery. I suspect that's largely because ARPG devs figured out they can make a lot of money off it, which again makes almost no sense because surely the idea of an ARPG is less about dressing up and more about gearing up, if the conversations here over the past 7 years are anything to go by.

So as for everyone else wearing their mtxes? I can't speak for them but I see nothing wrong with someone showing off their bling in a public town. I mean it's much more impressive when you see a character far larger than anyone else because that means they're wearing something money can't buy (at least not legally), something that typically could only be earned through exemplary play.

There was something the first wave big supporters would say, that mtxes were just something to spend the Support Pack GGGold on. For a while, that was true. But then, and I really shouldn't have to point when 'then' was, the release schedule of mtxes started to outpace even the most cashed-up of GGGold buyers. Now I imagine there is actually some restraint and pickiness involved in spending that GGGold, now that some armour sets are close to $100USD. I paid 1100 GGGold to buy a scorpion once because I could. It was something to spend the GGGold on, and I liked collecting the pets. But I could never justify ~960 GGGold on a suit of armour that is nothing more than two lesser suits combined. Not when that same amount can get 10+ better looking skins on games more conducive to appreciating a change of look. That was my personal 'are you fucking serious, GGG?' moment.

As for you coming from a different time, eh, who doesn't?