This is the sloppiest league so far.

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davidnn5 wrote:

I can only agree. I'm not feeling sad about the state of the league, more... that it's landed kind of where I expected, and my expectations were low.

I haven't given money to GGG since they started lagging me to death with Betrayal mobs. Like when desync made the game a solid 6/10 and never more, I figured if you're not going to address something that ruins the gameplay, then I shouldn't be cheering you on with money, as you'll get the wrong message.

Heck, it's improved quite a bit - I don't freeze up when Betrayal mobs load now, but it's still a shitshow load-wise; and GGG haven't taken a single simple step to make the gameplay better - like changing interventions to not show up and follow you forever. Counterplay, that thing we ask for but don't often get.

They have, however, added more things that lag when loading - legion, conqueror mobs, and an endless parade of mtx.

For that matter, *tiny* easily fixable things like the sulphite meter being a targetable item, or being able to select whether I go for a long walk to some breakable object and then run a long animation to break it while otherwise trying to fight monsters - still around. As are porcupines. Good thing they got rid of immortal call though, for most intents and purposes..

Metamorph was fun for many people, and I enjoyed it to some degree. Grinding out life catalysts got boring pretty quickly though, and one thing concerned me quite a bit - the balance of the league (boss hp etc) pushed the game well back towards where it was at 2.0.

2.0.... the times when some builds were objectively just a dumb choice. No matter what you'd invest, unless you had mirrors to throw around like candy, a build would likely turn out to be a bit shit. Deaths were a matter of grinding your teeth as you got deleted in an instant.

We seem to be back there now, looking at what someone thought would be a slower game. It's not slower. It's more random. Something something dead. Bit like reflect back in the day. Hard to even get excited.

PS this morning I loaded into a map with a delirium, conqueror, tane, einhar, and a legion. What the living fuck?

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brushmonkey wrote:

it will all come good in PoE2, its currently band aid upon band aid with make-do solutions, with 4.0 they can build it correctly from the ground up... thats right isn't it? that's what will happen?

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Jdahl22 wrote:

Nothing will change with 4.0 considering the way the 3 month cycle works. Simply, it's the best way to generate some profit without the need to take major risks or rethink the basics of the game. If they intended to build from the ground up, they wouldn't stack everything on top of the current game, as they are doing for some time now. New ascendancies on top of old, new campaign for no reason when there could be a merge, since the current campaign uses the same areas twice (well there was the need for something to be named "2" to attract attention). PoE simply cant escape the way it handles updates right now. It would need a year (at least) of continuous work, with the game being in a state of beta, to build from the ground up. 4.0/5.0/6.0, PoE will still work the way it works now.

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petrovskyz wrote:

That, is singlehandedly one of the most stupid ideas GGG has had so far. I'm guessing melee characters will have to stack up 10K plus life in order to take a single hit of this in high tier maps?

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dmt209a wrote:

It may be because of the 3 month cycle. They don't have the time to fix the issues. In the situation where you have to constantly think of new things to implement into your game, a majority of stuffs that are not prioritized has to be put aside. To me, POE used to be a great game. Hope they fix their game in POE 2.

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j33bus wrote:

I think the real problem is that they're not reflecting on past mistakes and weaknesses of the game. So they're retreading the same problems over and over again, and making leagues that emphasis the weaknesses and not the strengths.

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GrumpyMcElbows wrote:

I don't know if it's as bad as Betrayal, Invasion, or Synthesis, but . . . It's definitely up there.

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j33bus wrote:

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dmt209a wrote:

It may be because of the 3 month cycle. They don't have the time to fix the issues. In the situation where you have to constantly think of new things to implement into your game, a majority of stuffs that are not prioritized has to be put aside. To me, POE used to be a great game. Hope they fix their game in POE 2.

They said they were done pretty early on this one. I don't think it's the cycle I think it's that they don't really think through how players will interact with what they're adding, and how what they're adding effects the rest of the game. Delirium's design is obviously going to be a pile of back tracking, they say that already in similarly designed league. Grey on grey on death effects are obviously going to be hard to see. Thing that look like monsters but are actually volatile blood things are going to cause problems. Piles upon piles of particles effects are going to cause issues, just look what happens if you put rain in a hideout.

I think the real problem is that they're not reflecting on past mistakes and weaknesses of the game. So they're retreading the same problems over and over again, and making leagues that emphasis the weaknesses and not the strengths.