you didnt read the post, that happened once to me, and it never happened before, cuz my marauder is godly, i can kill ne thing, and tank ne thing in game. so u take another direction here....
why i should considre your opinion????
the ring with curse is new and am testing it.so i turn off warlord with blasfemy. but dosent matter, what ever you see here to me, means nothing, you full acc and chars are a show of total garbage, ill give you a good advise, before u point your finger to someone who you belive is Horribole. plz qualify your self first.
go farm and get lvls ... if u can sure :)
Dude I make better characters than you ALL the time in SSF, without legacy gear available in Standard. Should be noted I craft all my gear myself, so really you can't compare. It's time to get off your high horse. Your character is under-optimized at best and anyone with more than just a few hours of experience can see that.
Earlier in the thread you argued that someone weren't entitled to an opinion or judgement about your character, because their highest level character was a little behind you. By your own logic, you should now be listening to me. I have multiple character beyond 95, the highest being level 98.
If you are (somehow) open to feedback (although I really don't expect you to be from your past demeanor), here's a tl;dr for you. Treat it like a checklist and see how much better your character can be:
- No curse immunity, no freeze immunity. Switch out Writhing Jar, Atziri's Promise and Sin's Rebirth. None of those offer anything to you.
- Get rid of Immortal Call immediatly. A Juggernaut using that skill is a red flag to any experienced player! Use Vaal Molten Shell without the CWDT and thank me later.
- You don't need Warlord's Mark on hit, you need Vulnerability on hit. You should already be regenerating a lot of life per second and you already generate loads of EC by default. Get some life leech node from the passive tree instead of wasting a curse slot, and don't use Blasphemy as a Jugg. The INT required is detrimental to your build's potential and the stats are better used elsewhere
- You are playing Cyclone, but are you really playing Cyclone? Your main setup makes me cringe.
Took me like 5 minutes to increase your DPS by 7x of what you had previously, and that's without changing the curse: https://pastebin.com/eHtjNU1M
Take it or leave it, be hostile as you were before. Call me names, call me elitist, but at least I know how to build a character. Playing a purely physical based character and not using Maim, Pride or Impale is beyond me.
But the numbers don't lie. You lost some HP but got 10x tankier in the process (through Vaal Molten Shell).
Just one last thing: inexperience is no reason for hostility. Just accept you need some help every now and then and you're gonna sleep much better at night. And you'll have much better characters, too, lol. Hope you're a bigger man and see the problem at hand.
EDIT: Wording.
The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
Last edited by ArtCrusade#4438 on Mar 17, 2020, 10:10:13 PM
Sadly, you went "puny glass canon" Juggernaut where you went all in for the damage instead of actually running more defenses with Cyclone and you find it "ODD" that you got shafted by a large "unmitigated" enough hit?
Do you even take a look at other players reaching >15K ES with more defensive mechanics?
How do you think TencentGGG manages to kill them?
It's a matter of expectations actually.
Your build will die, especially to various burst damage scenarios so you can either take it as it is, or actually improve and further invest in the build so you address via items it's defensive downfalls...
PS: A casual n00b hoarder fellow Juggernaut, that feels safe in most instances running PoE on UBER HARD MODE aka dual wielding RT... ^^
And yes, I do hit the "insufficient damage" wall too often for my taste on end game, but that makes me more satisfied whenever I improve and finish those encounters as close to "optimally" as possible...
one day ill considre what u just said here, just when u reach 1 lvl higher than 94. until that, dead is the dude who cant go a T13 corrupted map with closed eyes... this is the dead build. RIP dude.
Heh, then you better start opening your eyes as my main dual wielding RT Jugg has 99, and already farmed enough EXP to reach 100 TWICE, at the moment only at 99.23% AGAIN. ^^
And those % are reached versus ALL END GAME CONTENT, without a single instant logout, I either win the fight, use a portal in the middle of it, or I take the death like a man and work addressing my problems...
If you want to play all content post their asinine % inc HP buff, you actually have to build for it - either by picking the defensive nodes of the most defensive Ascendancy, either by reaching better damage output due to you actually being Crit.
And my Aegis Incandescent Heart Glad only has 7K HP and 2K ES with up to 79% block/spell block, 7 EC and feels even tankier than my 8.4K dual wielding RT Jugg. Sure, they both take a longer time to kill bosses, but most of the times they both do their job perfectly, and I find it normal to ALWAYS pay attention to the map mods/sextant/watchstone mods...
PS: If you feel like your 310K pDPS damage is "good", you are WRONG, as going Crit you should have at least double that, as heck, even my dual wielding RT Jugg gets >220K CONSTANT DPS in combat conditions while also feeling sensibly more "tanky" than yours. Do use Impale, Pride and optimize your flask for Brutality usage...
PSS: Our almighty TencentGGG overlords are very scrupulous regarding criticizing their abilities to take proper decisions and consider everything "needlessly harsh and condescending"...
Good to know "free speech" doesn't apply in any form or manner on the forums these days...
Last edited by sofocle10000#6408 on Mar 18, 2020, 12:08:57 AM
op is tankier than 99% of builds in this game, that jugg can tank a shaper slam even without ms/vms, yet everyones telling him to build even tankier rofl
He can't in fact. Cyzax did the math already, he missed the fortify corruption but at the end of the day that's not changing anything.
Shaperslam does 300% of base, base is 5689 according to wiki, that makes 17k damage. OP has 51% physical damage taken so OP would take 17000x0,51=8704 damage to the face, with 8300 life that's oneshot right there. With armor flask up he will survive at like 100 hp. That's not considering crits mind you.
Yes, OPs char is tankier than 90% of the builds in the game simply for the fact that he is a jugg with Kaoms but if you want to eat one shot attacks from highest tier content, and live, just being a jugg isn't enough. You have to actually use the ascendancies defensive nodes like Unrelenting and Unbreakable, which he didn't. You might also want to use Soul of Steel, which he didn't despite being right next to it. You could also stack armor beyond 7k, which he didn't. You could even use VMS, which he didn't. Hell he isn't even running a basalt flask.
And even with all that he is still stuck at like 350k dps because he is missing impale, pride, flesh and Stone, Cwdt vulnerbility and a bunch of other staples for a phys build. His build is literal shit through and through and yet he comes here and complains because he thinks he should be immortal since he has a Kaoms on and it's obviously the games fault that he isn't.
People in this forum are completely oblivous to what's going on ingame and everytime something doesn't go their way it's the games fault. This is like taking your Dacia whatever car to a Formula one race and then complain that the Sport is shit because you always come in last. Just learn what you are dealing with and build accordingly, helps greatly with not dying.
completly wrong,
8170 life
7400 armor
310k dps. these are my stats in HO.... i know, you will never reach even half of that, i look into ur acc,it is a drama.i posted a screen shot here, and forum moderator removed it. cuz it proves what am saying, ur friend`s maths is like shit. as well as ur acc.. may god have mercy of you.
i expected newb coments like this, bibibi impale and other newber bullshit...flask of the red gay, and other bullshit, this is my build!!!! u cant match it... u cant even in ur dreams have a marauder or a necro like mine, if not forum moderator removed screen shot, i wont make u sleep this night. you cant do map T8, and looking in ur best char, i know ur kind, get carried all life in poe. u should quit dude, go play tibia... players like you, have exact words to difine them.
Thanks man, you gave me a real good laugh there. HF with your godlike Juggbuild, it's clearly the most amazing build i've ever seen and you should enjoy it to the fullest.
If you are (somehow) open to feedback (although I really don't expect you to be from your past demeanor), here's a tl;dr for you. Treat it like a checklist and see how much better your character can be:
- No curse immunity, no freeze immunity. Switch out Writhing Jar, Atziri's Promise and Sin's Rebirth. None of those offer anything to you.
- Get rid of Immortal Call immediatly. A Juggernaut using that skill is a red flag to any experienced player! Use Vaal Molten Shell without the CWDT and thank me later.
Even though he could clearly improve many things ( impale, phys oriented auras, etc ... ) :
- he is a Jugg, with unstoppable, he does need freeze immuunity ...
- IC is not necessarily bad, as long as he has the charges back when it ends, which is (ver?) likely for a Jugg. It should trigger Arkali's pantheon power with that many charges unless I'm missing something, and that is strong.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Mar 18, 2020, 2:58:51 AM
Even though he could clearly improve many things ( impale, phys oriented auras, etc ... ) :
- he is a Jugg, with unstoppable, he does need freeze immuunity ...
- IC is not necessarily bad, as long as he has the charges back when it ends, which is (ver?) likely for a Jugg. It should trigger Arkali's pantheon power with that many charges unless I'm missing something, and that is strong.
Immortal Call isn't full phys immunity anymore so it won't proc Arakali.
Baharoth is right, if you're Jugg you want self cast MS/VMS, zero exceptions ever, because the damage mitigation from that plus endurance charges makes you unkillable for about 12 seconds.
Immortal Call isn't full phys immunity anymore so it won't proc Arakali.
I remember something like that, but ...
"15% less Physical Damage taken per Endurance Charge removed" *8 endurance charges = 120% less physical damage taken, unless every 15% is separatly multiplicative which would make no sense as it would work differently from all other sources of XX% per YY afaik.
I haven't used that skill in ages so I can't say for sure how it works. Even if it was multiplicative, that would make him close to immortal to phys dmg for couple of seconds, can't get Arakali triggered though. Actually I haven't even checked if he was using bloodrage lol.
If you have armour, of course MS/VMS is better because that skill it still busted, no question about that.
His Jugg does not seem to be that well armoured though. If he was using proper flasks with a granite of iron skin somewhere, it would make much more sense to use MS for sure.
He doesn't though, I would use MS/VMS even with 5k armour before flasks on any character, I was just pointing out that using IC can make sense, even though MS is quite broken OP still ( why it didn't get nerfed is .... something I don't quite understand ).
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Mar 18, 2020, 3:35:47 AM
unless every 15% is separatly multiplicative which would make no sense
They are separate, and you're right. It makes no sense.
I didn't bother checking his build because he's long since established an unwillingness to listen to advice from people with more experience than him, I just assumed he had armor because Juggernaut. If he doesn't have armor on a Jugg... I don't even know what that build is intended to accomplish, lmao
Last edited by ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate#2605 on Mar 18, 2020, 3:46:57 AM
You know OP, they are just bullshitting you when they are comparing previous leagues with this leagues. The never die is just bullshit. This league is all bluff up. Unless they're asking for more nerfs and buff (chuckles).
Anyway, even with 50% phy reduction, Jug rarely dies from phy dmg. You're prolly killed by elemental damage or chaos damage.
You know OP, they are just bullshitting you when they are comparing previous leagues with this leagues. The never die is just bullshit. This league is all bluff up. Unless they're asking for more nerfs and buff (chuckles).
Anyway, even with 50% phy reduction, Jug rarely dies from phy dmg. You're prolly killed by elemental damage or chaos damage.
OP plays Standard with fully geared characters, not a fresh new league with mediocre stuff. OP lacks experience and neglects feedback. Did you even read the thread?
The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
you didnt read the post, that happened once to me, and it never happened before, cuz my marauder is godly, i can kill ne thing, and tank ne thing in game. so u take another direction here....
why i should considre your opinion????
the ring with curse is new and am testing it.so i turn off warlord with blasfemy. but dosent matter, what ever you see here to me, means nothing, you full acc and chars are a show of total garbage, ill give you a good advise, before u point your finger to someone who you belive is Horribole. plz qualify your self first.
go farm and get lvls ... if u can sure :)
Dude I make better characters than you ALL the time in SSF, without legacy gear available in Standard. Should be noted I craft all my gear myself, so really you can't compare. It's time to get off your high horse. Your character is under-optimized at best and anyone with more than just a few hours of experience can see that.
Earlier in the thread you argued that someone weren't entitled to an opinion or judgement about your character, because their highest level character was a little behind you. By your own logic, you should now be listening to me. I have multiple character beyond 95, the highest being level 98.
If you are (somehow) open to feedback (although I really don't expect you to be from your past demeanor), here's a tl;dr for you. Treat it like a checklist and see how much better your character can be:
- No curse immunity, no freeze immunity. Switch out Writhing Jar, Atziri's Promise and Sin's Rebirth. None of those offer anything to you.
- Get rid of Immortal Call immediatly. A Juggernaut using that skill is a red flag to any experienced player! Use Vaal Molten Shell without the CWDT and thank me later.
- You don't need Warlord's Mark on hit, you need Vulnerability on hit. You should already be regenerating a lot of life per second and you already generate loads of EC by default. Get some life leech node from the passive tree instead of wasting a curse slot, and don't use Blasphemy as a Jugg. The INT required is detrimental to your build's potential and the stats are better used elsewhere
- You are playing Cyclone, but are you really playing Cyclone? Your main setup makes me cringe.
Took me like 5 minutes to increase your DPS by 7x of what you had previously, and that's without changing the curse: https://pastebin.com/eHtjNU1M
Take it or leave it, be hostile as you were before. Call me names, call me elitist, but at least I know how to build a character. Playing a purely physical based character and not using Maim, Pride or Impale is beyond me.
But the numbers don't lie. You lost some HP but got 10x tankier in the process (through Vaal Molten Shell).
Just one last thing: inexperience is no reason for hostility. Just accept you need some help every now and then and you're gonna sleep much better at night. And you'll have much better characters, too, lol. Hope you're a bigger man and see the problem at hand.
EDIT: Wording.
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you are simply mad cuz my chars are realy super full geared and all with no expetion can do deadly encounters, thats why iam godly, i do ne game content with no problem,[Removed by Support]
about league ... [Removed by Support]... i played 30 min, and didnt liked it, in metamorph league i played it all with 31 challange done. with a necro and a Ranger, u can see them in my acc. they are there, RADIANT GODLY!!!! Gem is the last league dead eye.
[Removed by Support] just show how much ppl in this forum have no capacity to show ne respect or consideration for other players, [Removed by Support] make life harder and exalsstive. what you try to do, is disqualify me, and take my merit out, a 4 years player with thousands of hours played, and with my personal effort I manage to have this wonderful acc. cuz iam worthy !!!!
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