If you are not using a META build, you can't play endgame AT ALL

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Stanelis1 wrote:

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RandallPOE wrote:

Why do people say that the game is balanced around having a Headhunter or 1000ex worth of gear? If that were the case then you wouldn't be able to do anything in game without those which is quite clearly complete drivel.

Well there are people complaining here builds that don t have 100 ex worth of gear can reasonably clear content. That s the main argument of people calling for necro nerfs :" how dare they having fun without first spending hundred of hours getting 100 of ex orb to then start the game and have fun".

You can clear pretty much the entire game using any skill in a 5 link. Uber Elder being the only thing where this might end up not working due to the poop timer ticking. It's just a matter of build knowledge (or absence thereof). 90+% of the people complaining about the game being too hard have complete shit builds and/or no clue how to play.

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Baharoth15 wrote:

Melee is the worst archetype ever and can't even finish the campaign without 1000 EX gear, how dare you say something else!!

/s

I'm a rebel. Don't at me :)

But to be fair, melee IS lacking in the diversity/quality department, and the scaling of melee weapon damage makes melee require some more investment than other builds/archetypes. It's no secret. That's why melee builds where you DON'T scale as much weapon damage (bleed/poison/whatever) are often better - and easier to build - in some ways.

BUT!!! (Yes, there's a but(t)): Melee is still viable versus THE GAME. You can still do everything on a fairly decent budget - if you know what you're doing. But as this thread perfectly shows us: As long as you can do something else cheaper, melee is "BROKEN" and "REQUIRES" a HH or 100ex. Fuck a donkey.

Anyhow, I WOULD like some more flat physical scaling on melee skills, just to lessen the required top end weapon quality, improve the "+1 to melee gems" stat and make leveling noticeble. But me wanting that, does not - in any way, shape or form mean that melee is "useless".

And as my mother always said: "Real men play melee".

I am planning to make a melee delving build actually.

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Johny_Snow wrote:

I am planning to make a melee delving build actually.

Mitigation or avoidance?

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Isdp wrote:

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xaeror35 wrote:

I am playing a completely off meta build and raping end game. Get good.

You have two metamorph characters.
One is necro skelly which is the most meta build.
The other one is a MS saviour build.. which is already 100+ exalts in at a bare minimum.

So yeah you farmed an off meta build, that is viable because you sink hundreds ex, using the most meta build. I don't see your point here.

Hahaha, completely agree on that, it's like the other dude on the first or second page, checked his profil, lvl100 with full awakener gem and speaking

Cannot wait for necro nerf to see tears in the next leagues

i already know what my build next league will be and i can't wait to start playing it.
definitely not meta. you don't need meta. just makes it easier

The whole statement "If you are not using a META build, you can't play endgame AT ALL" is ridiculous.

There are so many builds out there that can farm endgame without a problem that people don't play because there's no awareness about or have no idea how to properly build them.

If there is an awareness about these builds, then they might become meta themselves, as META is simply a mass public awareness of a strong build and a desire to play.

I personally enjoy meta shifts, because it makes strong, formerly META, builds cheap AS F*** to play. During Legion league I bought a clarity mana as extra es watcher's eye for 3ex. Sure, cyclone was STRONG AS F***, but it wasn't the only build that could farm endgame. The same is true about summoners. Summoners are STRONG AS F*** and EASY AS F*** to play, but they're such a small part of the picture here.

Top 20 players will play the same builds, and the sheep will follow. I don't care.

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Isdp wrote:

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xaeror35 wrote:

I am playing a completely off meta build and raping end game. Get good.

You have two metamorph characters.
One is necro skelly which is the most meta build.
The other one is a MS saviour build.. which is already 100+ exalts in at a bare minimum.

So yeah you farmed an off meta build, that is viable because you sink hundreds ex, using the most meta build. I don't see your point here.

Bro i have 97 storm brand that rapes content. Most of the gear is self crafted, you can get 80 percent of my stats for 3-4 ex now. I am confused why people think their poop builds are suppose to beat all content.

This is not true at all lmao. As long as you have some understanding of builds and play around in pob, you can take A TON of skills to endgame even without insane investment.

Is this another "My 4000hp Deadeye can't facetank end game bosses! Even though i took Acrobatics!11 Game SUCKS"-thread?

On a serious note, there is cheese to be found pretty much in any "archetype" now.
Just dont expect your 5l Tornado Shot to oneshot t16-bosses on day two.

Is the game perfectly balanced? Hell no. Can you enjoy it in many different ways? Hell yea.