A Community Almost Completely Devoid of Sympathy and Empathy

I am trying to not use "you" in the sentence.

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finisterre wrote:

I am trying to not use "you" in the sentence.

Just because someone attacks an opinion or an argument does not mean they are attacking the person making said opinion or argument. An argument may represent a person's thoughts on a subject, but an argument is not an identity. It is not assault to disagree with or dismiss an opinion.

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Aixius wrote:

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finisterre wrote:

I am trying to not use "you" in the sentence.

Just because someone attacks an opinion or an argument does not mean they are attacking the person making said opinion or argument. An argument may represent a person's thoughts on a subject, but an argument is not an identity. It is not assault to disagree with or dismiss an opinion.

Some people have so little to do in their life that they conflate their idea's with identity.

It's a heuristics failure.

For example, any sane person knows that he no longer holds the idea's he had when he was younger(thankfully so) so they aren't personally offended by disagreements.

They understand its mutually beneficial to throw out idea's and give/receive critique's on them so they hold the firmest concept applicable.

What we currently see is a heuristic being enforced by a minority on a majority and the clash of that exchange.
And the heuristic is being exposed as worse then the one the majority utilizes because of the absence of inherent logic and the failure of people to defend it(silencing or witchhunts are not a form of defending your heuristic, but expose their weakness)

The majority heuristic is "sticks and stones will hurt my bones but words will never hurt me" because it results in stronger people and a better mental attitude.

While the current minority heuristic being forced on the majority is not an "update" or a beneficial "synthesis" that expands that heuristic, but a complete reversal to "words cause bodily harm".

It isn't beneficial to people, it isn't logical and it isnt reasonable and people with that frail mindset are in for a world of pain when they rub up to reality.
They won't understand humor/banter/irony or sarcasm and a bunch of other social endevours people use to pass time because their trained sense of offensive will get in the way of a group experience utilized to relieve stress.

Were already seeing the effects, a 70% increase in self-harm for teen girls for example.
More astoundingly we see self-harm manifesting itself in girls between the ages of 10-14, which is a historical first.
Offense culture coupled with social media will be an interesting case study for psychologists for years to come.
The more horrifying thought is obviously who we are going to find acountable for this in the future.

Peace,

-Boem-

Agreed, there is a lot of filth in POE community.

Best to search for a respectable guild.

anyone care to pull my finger? :P

jk ye for me most of the time I dont even bother tuning into global chat bc of all the nonsense. Better for my sanity to choose not to engage my open-ended experiences and opinions to be sent through the Troll Gauntlet of Shame. I do post occasionally in the forums on things from time to time, but can always count on at least 1 smart remark of condescension or 1-up'ism from someone, so when that happens, I just envision that person as a Shrek-type in the darkest basement imagineable where the rats won't even bring him any crumbs, then pray for that person, and move on.

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Aixius wrote:

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finisterre wrote:

I am trying to not use "you" in the sentence.

Just because someone attacks an opinion or an argument does not mean they are attacking the person making said opinion or argument. An argument may represent a person's thoughts on a subject, but an argument is not an identity. It is not assault to disagree with or dismiss an opinion.

Thank you very much. :)

This is exactly what I had been telling to my father (in "dementia" according to the signboard on the door of his doctor's office.)

It's going fine? since me and my father started to cooperate.

Edit
I forgot to mention that it's written "物忘れ外来" in our language on the signboard. (物忘れ forgetfulness 外来 outpatient clinic)
Doctors there don't really remember the name of a patient (they ask my father of his name) and we always laugh at the signboard.

@Boem

"Self-harming manifesting in a group" as a subject, I understand the current topics in the clinical psychology.
I see it as a transitional effect of the changes on the certification for clinical psychologist. (They are required to have an ability to analyze in a statistical method so that they need a bigger mass to start rather than looking into individual cases.)

Here I'm talking for their withdrawal symptoms or deviations. They have to survive in the first place and need an environment supported by the trust from their attributions (this directs to the current topics in the clinical psychology.)

I see there lies an issue regarding to "trust". We haven't found the practical way to reproduce the trust statistically for a greater mass. (I do recommend to read Gaze)

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finisterre wrote:

@Boem

"Self-harming manifesting in a group" as a subject, I understand the current topics in the clinical psychology.
I see it as a transitional effect of the changes on the certification for clinical psychologist. (They are required to have an ability to analyze in a statistical method so that they need a bigger mass to start rather than looking into individual cases.)

Here I'm talking for their withdrawal symptoms or deviations. They have to survive in the first place and need an environment supported by the trust from their attributions (this directs to the current topics in the clinical psychology.)

I see there lies an issue regarding to "trust". We haven't found the practical way to reproduce the trust statistically for a greater mass. (I do recommend to read Gaze)

These data points are derived from people who were hospitalized because of their self-harm.

It's not dependant on self reporting of the affair, but data pulled from hospitals and clinical institutions directly.

Peace,

-Boem-

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please dont bring some anti-enlightment theory into this, gaze theory is defunct because it views the world purely in groups and binary motives and ignores reality which doesn't consist in binary but is 3-dimensional.

I hope you are taught something else beyond "deconstruction" theorum.

https://www.google.com/search?q=school+counselor+certification

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The sound of Trust

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finisterre wrote:

https://www.google.com/search?ei=TIopXrO5KJKxmAXDpZ_wDw&q=school+counselor+certification

The argument that the numbers are increasing because of more raportage and better methods of observation has been debunct already if thats what your aiming at.

- only cases which required hospitalization were utilized(reducing self-raportage as a factor = argument that people are more informent now in relation to past generations)
- on the inquiry almost none of the people that self-harmed showed or aknowledged an increase in stress factors, but instead only raported anxiety increases.(the patients self raported no increases of stress in their life, but only noted increases in anxiety, this is important since it means they don't experience life as being more stressfull while they had the option to rapport this)

If thats not what your talking about, you need to formulate your arguments better since your last post made little sense and so does posting this url.

I'm bassicaly deciphering what your trying to actually say at this point.

Peace,

-Boem-