Minions Are the Problem

Same could be said about party play or trading, it makes the game trivial and too easy, yet it is a part of it.

Minions should not be touched, unless you touch the other two things first! Since I don´t trade, nor play in a party, minion builds are my only way to see endgame, succesfully.
If you give everyone minions, then the game for those in party and with trading, will become even easier, which again leads to a greater difficulty for everyone else.


One shot mechanics should be removed, the exploit which let´s you log out and survive in HC, must be removed, finding items and crafting should be the main way to aquire gear, not RMT.

I played a melee char this league first, he could tank bosses just fine, put me in a party with your glasscannon and I taunt, just like minions would.
And some BIS bow build, can become pretty much immnune to damage, you just need to buy the gear.

You can not blame minions for something, that other classes can achieve as well.

Party play is supposed to make the game easy. Meanwhile for most people, trading doesn't make the game easy, it makes it possible. Neither of these are actually an issue the same way this is.

The cost I suggested for minions specifically makes them a less attractive option for team play. I suggested it because it deals directly with why minions are powerful, and that advantage is already significantly less important when playing with friends.

Also this:

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...finding items and crafting should be the main way to aquire gear, not RMT.

...is total bullshit. Trading =/= RMT. I'd wager that very few players are actually doing RMT. Everyone hates those guys. Despite the issues that PoE's trade system has, its economy is actually pretty healthy, and effective farming strategies are what define basic competence at this game. There is simply too much stuff in the game for even 90% of the good items to be relevant to you. Forcing SSF on everyone is the worst idea.

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007Bistromath wrote:

and effective farming strategies are what define basic competence at this game.

No, that's the exact opposite. If you have to use farming strategies to make currency to buy all your gear, it couldn't be further from competence at the game.

man what

I am the opposite of you OP, I try to specialize as much into one pet as i possibly can and do not use other pets, I see the Everything-Necromancers and i run the other direction.

If anything it is the build you described that is the problem, Everything summoners need more drawbacks besides destroying the fps of everyone around you.

Yeah, I'm totally the problem when it comes to framerate. No eye cancer in this game.

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007Bistromath wrote:

Yeah, I'm totally the problem when it comes to framerate. No eye cancer in this game.

Well i actually have friends that i play with regularly so i generally not only specialize in one pet but choose frame rate friendly ones too.

I actually get the whole summoning an army thing and i like the concept but to say that archetype of summoner is not among some of the worst performance destroying things in this game then it reveals a personal bias towards the truth on your part.

Only when I pop Vaal Skeletons. Yeah, it chugs pretty bad then. My rig is a potato. Any other hangs I have aren't from my boys though, they mostly started this league. I did have to switch to predictive to do blighted maps in 3.8, but I've never had the near constant stuttering I've seen in 3.9.

So long as I haven't got the vaal out, my impact on framerate is a baby fart compared to almost any caster.

As for my build needing drawbacks, it has them. I'm significantly slower than any build that properly specializes, and my gear is more expensive than simpler necro builds. To make it really fit for red maps, I need at least one 6L, preferably two. And two means one of them is a 6L Femurs, which is one of the 6L uniques that's still fairly costly. Ideally I also get a pseudo 5L with either minion damage or minion life, and that's not easy anymore.