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The people complaining about this are missing a massive part. This was about balancing it, not making it more difficult. People can get so powerful there was someone who had enough damage to one shot almost three Shapers at once. There's nothing they could do to make it more challenging when literally any build can get millions of DPS. Other than add a massive amount of invulnerability and phases, which would be way worse. Need a new signature, cuz name change. I dunno though. I guess this seems fine. Yeah, this is good.	Posted by LV9999Majin#9565 on Dec 14, 2019, 8:08:19 PM Quote this Post
If they made him harder, that's good. Shaper died way too easy last league, I had low budget weapons, about 20 chaos, and Shaper melted really fast. Plus a few people who have never played the game made it all the way through and beat him. He's supposed to be the end game boss, it should require some effort. Builds https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2149153 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2245701 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2664371 Shaper Guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2252008	Posted by 0piate#1139 on Dec 14, 2019, 8:15:11 PM Quote this Post
The only joke is playing some cheap gacha arpg 8-12 hours a day every day like some 'jokers' in this thread. In other news let's make McDonald's burgers $100, I don't eat that trash so who cares and your fat ass will be. less fat. Same thing about shaper hp, who cares.	Posted by Black__Dawn#3783 on Dec 14, 2019, 8:22:34 PM Quote this Post
so you're telling me shaper is still pretty easy for the fully optimized characters in standard with legacy gear and crafts? imagine my shock	Posted by xMustard#3403 on Dec 14, 2019, 8:22:36 PM Quote this Post
I get OP's point. People who melted Shaper before will still melt him, just a bit slower. People who struggled with Shaper before will get absolutely rekt. Not ideal. GGG banning all political discussion shortly after getting acquired by China is a weird coincidence.	Posted by Xavderion#3432 on Dec 14, 2019, 8:22:38 PM Quote this Post
" elbowfrag wrote: Pretty much. My primordial jewel based ice golem build takes 2x longer to kill guardians and I've still got to min/max it a bit. So... 10-12 seconds now tops, depends on how quickly I drop storm brand on the bosses. Meanwhile, the budget casuals and medium currency builds doing millions less in DPS are all in WTF mode. The game is not really harder. All this nerf did was increase separation between top tier builds and everyone else. And it is going to have the exact opposite effect. People are going to go more glass cannon to make up the difference. The game has become the robotron2084 of ARPGs. They've been nerfing defensive skills for several successive leagues now, so there's no surprise that glass cannons are becoming the objectively better build. This is what happens when you balance character defences around the half-dozen players who can get below 6k depth in Delve.	Posted by FramFramson#6091 on Dec 14, 2019, 8:25:34 PM Quote this Post
" BloodPuddles420 wrote: The people complaining about this are missing a massive part. This was about balancing it, not making it more difficult. People can get so powerful there was someone who had enough damage to one shot almost three Shapers at once. There's nothing they could do to make it more challenging when literally any build can get millions of DPS. Other than add a massive amount of invulnerability and phases, which would be way worse. Uh... there are literally thousands and thousands of different game mechanics to make bosses difficult in video games. Surely a handful of them are adaptable to ARPGs to make boss fights more meaningful than this boring, phoned-in "balance" change.	Posted by FramFramson#6091 on Dec 14, 2019, 8:28:08 PM Quote this Post
Shaper fight is so easy they can give it 2 bilions HP and people will do it with one hand.	Posted by Aynix#7757 on Dec 14, 2019, 8:30:13 PM On Probation Quote this Post
" FramFramson wrote: " BloodPuddles420 wrote: The people complaining about this are missing a massive part. This was about balancing it, not making it more difficult. People can get so powerful there was someone who had enough damage to one shot almost three Shapers at once. There's nothing they could do to make it more challenging when literally any build can get millions of DPS. Other than add a massive amount of invulnerability and phases, which would be way worse. Uh... there are literally thousands and thousands of different game mechanics to make bosses difficult in video games. Surely a handful of them are adaptable to ARPGs to make boss fights more meaningful than this boring, phoned-in "balance" change. Tell me just one that would prevent someone with 5 million DPS from making a joke of the fight. Edit: Typo. Need a new signature, cuz name change. I dunno though. I guess this seems fine. Yeah, this is good. Last edited by LV9999Majin#9565 on Dec 14, 2019, 8:35:51 PM	Posted by LV9999Majin#9565 on Dec 14, 2019, 8:35:35 PM Quote this Post
" Xavderion wrote: I get OP's point. People who melted Shaper before will still melt him, just a bit slower. People who struggled with Shaper before will get absolutely rekt. Not ideal. If you got rekt by Shaper in current state of the PoE its just your own fault. Shaper was a joke gifht for a very long time, you could pick pretty much any skill, put 10c gear on it and kill Shaper w/o any problems.	Posted by Aynix#7757 on Dec 14, 2019, 8:38:18 PM On Probation Quote this Post