Need Help upgrading my PC Hardware for 3.9/2 wise (ENG/GER)

Hey!

I get those readings from my Task-Manager while running certain Game aspects with Firefox and Youtube running in background. To more or less simulate "max stress". Thats were my GPU jumps alomst directly at 100% when I start PoE. While loading it goes down to a few % and jumps to 90+ while playing.
My CPU runs up to 90% when I really stress the Game and stuff besides it.
But PoE alone does use a lot CPU as well on its own by running high density maps for example.

I did a bit further testing with GPU-Z:

My GPU Load nearly maxed out all the time. 90% avaerage after 5 mins game start.
Of the 2 GB my Card has around 70% are always used. Rising while playing more.
GPU Clock at 70-80%ish
Memory Used nearly all.
Card runns at an average of 58'C

All this looks to me like a better GPU would fix a lot/improve a lot.
But again, this are the impressions from someone not really knowing what means what for sure.

Those GPU-Z reading are while only PoE is running and that just after 5 mins of start up.

While idle in town Taskmanager lists CPU at around 25% and 38% RAM used. GPU is at 95+%.
With Dynamic Resolution active and a target framerate of 20 (no typo)



So I hope the Graphics card upgrade will help lots for a first step? CPU maybe next?^^



And please stay kind to each other! I appreciat every typ of advise! <3

When going near the max of your video ram, your pc will start using more of your system ram. while it is better than reloading textures from the disk, it is slower than using only video ram.

Also web browsers use video ram when hardware acceleration is enabled.
With so little video ram (2Gb), i would try to disable hardware acceleration in firefox (if you use it while playing).

Regarding the GPU, you can do a simple test, lower your game resolution (1280x720 for example), and see if your fps improve (with a bigger cpu usage).

While your cpu could still limit you, the gpu upgrade will be the biggest improvement :)

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MrVaad wrote:

When going near the max of your video ram, your pc will start using more of your system ram. while it is better than reloading textures from the disk, it is slower than using only video ram.

Also web browsers use video ram when hardware acceleration is enabled.
With so little video ram (2Gb), i would try to disable hardware acceleration in firefox (if you use it while playing).

Regarding the GPU, you can do a simple test, lower your game resolution (1280x720 for example), and see if your fps improve (with a bigger cpu usage).

While your cpu could still limit you, the gpu upgrade will be the biggest improvement :)

Great thx! Will test that.

Any Thoghts on the gtx 1650 Super instead of 1660 or 1660 ti?

would save me around 100 Bucks with not thaaaaat much less power. And I def dont need to upgrade my Power supply^^

Edit: hardware acceleratio disabled, I think I do feel and see a difference! thx for the tipp!

Reducing the resolution increases the CPU using slightly. first at around 5-10% but goes down to a few % after a short while. 2-3% increased CPU usage.
FPS increase in hideout from 21 to 25 lowering the resolution.

I don't know the prices in your country but you can see a good performance chart here (there's also a perf/$ chart).
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-geforce-gtx-1650-super-gaming-x/27.html
Then you can choose what is the best performance for your bucks :)
This site and www.guru3d.com are one of the best hardware enthusiasts sites in my opinion.


I think the 1660 is a real step up (50% better).
You also have the "1650 Super" which is between the 1650 and 1660. But you'll loose 2Gb of vram.

In my country, we have the following prices :
Cheapest dual fans 1650 is 165€ (gigabyte)
Cheapest dual fans 1660 is 220€ (zotac or inno3d)

and perhaps buy a used AMD ryzen later.

Just note, that you cant be sure it will run as intended.. My computer have always been on minimum requirements or (for the most part) recommended requirements, and I still have issues, and the support can't seem to figure out the issue..

They have given me some tips and tricks on changing in files etc., but due to my lag of understanding with this and what I'm doing and changing, I chosed not to engage with that.. And they probably saw the ticket/issue as solved.

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Idiolized wrote:

Just note, that you cant be sure it will run as intended.. My computer have always been on minimum requirements or (for the most part) recommended requirements, and I still have issues, and the support can't seem to figure out the issue..

They have given me some tips and tricks on changing in files etc., but due to my lag of understanding with this and what I'm doing and changing, I chosed not to engage with that.. And they probably saw the ticket/issue as solved.

The problem is that the minimum requirements should be updated. Because they are too low for POE (unless minimum means 10-20fps gameplay)

I'm not pushing for a nuclear fusion computer. But clearly, POE's minimum requirements are higher.

"x86-compatible 2.6GHz or better"
They should add the year or generation. This phrase means you can use a dual core CPU from 10years ago (no you should not). A 4 core should be the minimum.

"4 GB RAM"
I honestly don't believe it will be stable. 6-8Gb should be the minimum (8Gb if your graphic card has less than 4Gb vram)

"NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 650 Ti or ATI Radeon™ HD 7850"
This one is probably OK. But GGG should give more examples.
Because Graphic Cards are very misleading. For example, a 650TI is 4-5 times more powerfull than a 710. A 650Ti is 2 times more powerfull than a 920m (laptop).

Im from Germany.

gtx 1650 Super is around 80-100 Bucks cheaper here as a gtx 1660. Depending on Seller.
As I should upgrade my Power Supply when buying a gtx 1660, It would be more expensive as well.
I guess I could use my old Power supply with the 1660 but its suggestet to upgrade it. Maybe thats worth it in the end.

The Side I bought my rough upgrade tells me too, that my Tower wouldnt be big enough. Which I kinda doubt but yeah. (alternate)


Maybe I should go with the 1660 (ti) and check how smooth it runs or if not. And upgrade then further. Need to check my Budget then to not overpurchase.

11-12% better for 80-100 Bucks more feels kinda bad tbh^^

I'm from France :)

I just checked alternate.de
Cheapest 1650 super is 188€ for a dual fans Gigabyte
https://www.alternate.de/GIGABYTE/GeForce-GTX-1650-SUPER-WINDFORCE-OC-4G-Grafikkarte/html/product/1595898?

Cheapest 1660 is 230€ for a dual fans Gainward
https://www.alternate.de/Gainward/GeForce-GTX-1660-Ghost-Grafikkarte/html/product/1532309?

and 235€ for a 1660 dual fans Gigabyte
https://www.alternate.de/GIGABYTE/GeForce-GTX-1660-OC-6G-Grafikkarte/html/product/1529279?


The 1650 super is a 100-105w card
The 1660 is a 130w card

Your ryzen 2200g needs 21w at 100% (without using its integrated GPU)
The ryzen 2600 needs 78w at 100%
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13945/the-amd-ryzen-5-2500x-and-ryzen-3-2300x-cpu-review/19

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=> So your current CPU+1660 would need 151w.
=> And your current CPU+1650 super would need 126w.
=> main advantage for the 1660 seems to be the +2Gb vram. But it's more for POE2 probably :)
=> a ryzen 2600 would add 57w

You can add 2w per fan and 2-3w for your SSD.

I think alternate's recommendations are based on the users. People with a 1660 could want an 8 core CPU. Whereas 1650 users are more likely to have a 4 or 6 cores.


What is the brand of your current psu ?

Found a video comparing the 3 cards :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fXy9QsBKDo

I edited my previous post with correct power consumption for the CPUs (don't know what i was thinking when i wrote this :)

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MrVaad wrote:

Found a video comparing the 3 cards :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fXy9QsBKDo

I edited my previous post with correct power consumption for the CPUs (don't know what i was thinking when i wrote this :)

My PSU is a Corsair VS350

https://www.alternate.de/PC-Konfigurator#!/product/0/50/1149264

Actually the PoE2 arguemnt is a good point for the 1660 ^^

And thx so much btw, really appreciate it!

(after same reseaching in your links)

I think im more for the 1660 with Future Aspects in mind.

Now, theres again a 1660, a 1660 ti and a 1660 Super.
ti and Super dont seem that much appart.
The 1660 features GDDR5, while the others go for 6 allready.

So the minimum would be 230€ for a 1660.
Worth investing a few more for GDDR6 (with PoE2 in mind)?
25-100€ more, in the end for GDDR6.