Path of Exile 1 Gameplay Help and Discussion - Crit chance vs multiplier? - Forum

" 0piate wrote: You're not really using "Shocks from your Hits always increase Damage taken by at least 15%", because your shocks should be applying more than 15% anyway. I thought Beacon of Ruin meant that any hit that could shock would shock by at least 15% even if the hit would be under 0.2% of the target's hp.	Posted by Llama8#2079 on Oct 25, 2019, 11:32:09 AM Quote this Post
" Llama8 wrote: I thought Beacon of Ruin meant that any hit that could shock would shock by at least 15% even if the hit would be under 0.2% of the target's hp. With Beacon of Ruin every critical strike with lightning damage shocks to the tune of at least 19.5% more damage taken (BoR also grants 30% increased effect of non-damaging ailments, i.e. shock and chill). Non-critical strikes depend on their chance to shock. Last edited by tomay#5509 on Oct 25, 2019, 4:37:17 PM	Posted by tomay#5509 on Oct 25, 2019, 4:26:08 PM Quote this Post
" Llama8 wrote: I thought Beacon of Ruin meant that any hit that could shock would shock by at least 15% even if the hit would be under 0.2% of the target's hp. You're correct but how often are your hits weak enough to give you less than 15%? Probably not very often because lightning is your main skill. Did you notice any difference when you learned that ascendancy? It's probably doing very little for you. Beacon of Ruin would be good if you we're going for a dedicated ignite build, something like Burning Arrow or Magma Orb would be good with it. Then you could add just a little bit of lightning and cold and get the full effect of everything. Builds https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2149153 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2245701 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2664371 Shaper Guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2252008	Posted by 0piate#1139 on Oct 29, 2019, 3:26:23 AM Quote this Post
" 0piate wrote: You're correct but how often are your hits weak enough to give you less than 15%? Probably not very often because lightning is your main skill. And this matters how? Even with Beacon of Ruin your hits can apply more than 15% Shock if they deal higher damage. Beacon does not limit your shock effect to 15% (sez "at least"). Surely Beacon doesn't matter much vs the rabble but it will make a huge difference vs the big boiz. If you hope to apply similar shock without Beacon to Shaper/Uber Elder you'll need to hit them with more than 700k lightning damage* from a single hit... good luck with that. ;) * (36k is required for 1% shock on Shaper & Co so if you want to reach the 19.5% Shock from Beacon you'll need 702k)	Posted by tomay#5509 on Oct 29, 2019, 5:17:36 AM Quote this Post
" HanSoloDK wrote: Ther more crit chance you have, the more you shock No, that's not true. There's a nice link here that explains the mechanics in detail : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voz1-GsDKkA Last edited by FNX_Heroes#6628 on Oct 29, 2019, 2:12:57 PM	Posted by FNX_Heroes#6628 on Oct 29, 2019, 2:11:34 PM Quote this Post
" tomay wrote: " 0piate wrote: You're correct but how often are your hits weak enough to give you less than 15%? Probably not very often because lightning is your main skill. And this matters how? Even with Beacon of Ruin your hits can apply more than 15% Shock if they deal higher damage. Beacon does not limit your shock effect to 15% (sez "at least"). Surely Beacon doesn't matter much vs the rabble but it will make a huge difference vs the big boiz. If you hope to apply similar shock without Beacon to Shaper/Uber Elder you'll need to hit them with more than 700k lightning damage* from a single hit... good luck with that. ;) * (36k is required for 1% shock on Shaper & Co so if you want to reach the 19.5% Shock from Beacon you'll need 702k) Umm, because most of the time it's not doing anything. Builds https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2149153 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2245701 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2664371 Shaper Guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2252008	Posted by 0piate#1139 on Oct 30, 2019, 8:19:33 AM Quote this Post
Most of the time it's not doing anything? It's increasing the Shock effect by 30%... all the time. ^^ So even if your hits shock more than 15% their effect is significantly higher than without Beacon. On top of that, if you happen to have some source for cold damage, you will reduce enemy action speed by 13%... again all the time. Beacon of Ruin is the single most important ascendancy for most Elementalist builds. Last edited by tomay#5509 on Oct 30, 2019, 11:45:14 AM	Posted by tomay#5509 on Oct 30, 2019, 11:44:21 AM Quote this Post