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Now I am not completely sure about this, but this is the way for me to get to know I guess.
I crafted Vengeant Cascade on to my amulet, and I have the skill Point on my skill tree now. However, it says that it is unallocated, and if I try to put a skill Point in it, it says requirements not met (obv i should not even have to put a skill Point in it, right?). However it obv says "attack projectiles return to you from final Target", but I can not see any projectiles return. Not even If I go down to hte basic amount of chains and in however big mob packs I try I see no projectiles returning. I am using Cobra lash. And tried it out with other skills aswell, but none where I could see any projectiles returning either, kinda gave up because there is no good skill to see either (if it would work).
https://imgur.com/a/UVWG9yA
Thanks for your report.
When testing "Vengeant Cascade" with "Cobra Lash" I noticed a few things, first of all the projectile won't return until there are no remaining chains on a projectile.
Secondly the projectile from "Cobra Lash" doesn't last forever and can expire before it can return to you, Projectile Speed can help with this.
Could either of the above be the cause of what's occurring when you're using "Cobra Lash"?
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Posted byJatin_GGGon Sep 11, 2019, 5:46:10 PMGrinding Gear Games
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Hi Jatin,
It appears to be bugged with *any* melee skill at this point, working properly with bow skills.
When using a melee weapon it will say "Requirements not met" https://gyazo.com/ddfe54bcd39236218388e9d24372a62d
I'm guessing that the node's code was maybe partially reused from the bow-mod for returning projectiles and that may be where part of this issue stems from?
So the "Requirements not met" seems to be occurring with all Notables that are allocated with an Anointment AND are not connected to any other allocated point on the tree, you should still be receiving the benefits of the Notable.
When you mention *any* melee skills, which melee skills have you tried?
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Posted byJatin_GGGon Sep 11, 2019, 6:03:09 PMGrinding Gear Games
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Correction - Lancing and Shattering steel both return.
Frost Blades and Cobra Lash were the first two tested in order to try and rule out melee, then we tried bows and split arrow was working so I jumped to conclusions. My apologies on that.
I guess that means my troubleshooting was wrong and likely unhelpful so far, but if you have specific questions the guy that I've been helping to test is in-game and I can grab you his character name if you'd like to talk with him.
It's very hard to tell that Shattering Steel actually returns because of how short the projectile is.
I also looked at Lightning Strike as that one is fairly obvious to notice, seems to be working fine.
Cobra Lash confused me at first until I realised the 2 points I made earlier (needs to finish all chains and projectile lifetime is limited).
I did notice that the projectiles from Venom Gyre (the ones released when you use Whirling Blades) don't come back, I can bring this up with the team to double check.
I also looked at Frost Blades, its projectiles are also limited like Cobra Lash and they can disappear rather quickly, once again Projectile Speed helps with this.
EDIT: The projectiles which come out of you when you use Whirling Blades with Venom Gyre are not able to return, this is intended and also in the Gem description.
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Posted byJatin_GGGon Sep 11, 2019, 6:11:28 PMGrinding Gear Games
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I also looked at Lightning Strike as that one is fairly obvious to notice, seems to be working fine.
Doesn't really work for me. Sometimes it does, but mostly it doesn't.
I'm using 2 Bino's Kitchen Knives and Lightning Strike.
Let's say when I attack 3 times (because of Multistrike) and shoot 24 projectiles, at the most 2 return, although I clearly just wacked a mob of monsters with more than just 2 projectiles hitting them.
Do I need to hit them within my melee range or am I doing something else wrong?
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When I shoot several times and I might get some projectiles to return. So if I attack about 10 times (30 with Multistrike), maybe I get 2 projectiles back.
Edit2:
Just had an idea and took my Voidwalker off and went to Act 1. Now it returns all the time. I guess it doesn't work with Phasing that is triggered by killing?
That would explain why it works at first shot and then it doesn't for the next several shots until my Phasing ends. That would suck, if it is true. I guess I will switch to different boots until this gets fixed.
For the projectile to return to you it needs to finish all Chains/Forks/Pierces. If there's any amount of Chains/Forks/Pierces remaining then the projectile will not return.
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Posted byJatin_GGGon Oct 8, 2019, 4:57:52 PMGrinding Gear Games
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I have tried it with Frost Blades and Wild Strike, not working with either of them.
Can we expect any patch anytime soon for this or the way to get oils back?
Wildstrike projectiles ALWAYS pierces so they will never return.
Frostblades should work fine, the projectile does have a lifetime where it will eventually expire (projectile speed can help with this), do you have anything that can cause your Frostblades to Chain/Fork/Pierce?
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Posted byJatin_GGGon Oct 8, 2019, 5:06:04 PMGrinding Gear Games
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