Phew what's that smell?? Oh it's just 3.8

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1453R wrote:

Nobody's ever going to figure out what the next fun cool thing is if Grinding Gear isn't allowed to do anything but "Reskinned Breach".

I think this could be an interesting shift in how shit goes, and it'll be better than Legion either way. Gawd Legion was boring. At least Blight needs you to execute some minor degree of thought beyond "how do I offscreen the most possible things?"

This league is reskinned Breach.

I had the same reaction to Legion. We don't all like the same things......*surprised pikachu*

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VolcanoElixir wrote:

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1453R wrote:

Nobody's ever going to figure out what the next fun cool thing is if Grinding Gear isn't allowed to do anything but "Reskinned Breach".

I think this could be an interesting shift in how shit goes, and it'll be better than Legion either way. Gawd Legion was boring. At least Blight needs you to execute some minor degree of thought beyond "how do I offscreen the most possible things?"

This league is reskinned Breach.

Actually it's a reskinned Abyss. Abyss with extra steps, just like Legion was Breach with extra steps.

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lupasvasile wrote:

I had the same reaction to Legion. We don't all like the same things......*surprised pikachu*

Actually that's basically what I'm saying.

Certainly you cant appeal to everyone, but my guess is that Legion will/did appeal to more than Blight will.

*I could be wrong...

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DarthSki44 wrote:

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lupasvasile wrote:

I had the same reaction to Legion. We don't all like the same things......*surprised pikachu*

Actually that's basically what I'm saying.

Certainly you cant appeal to everyone, but my guess is that Legion will/did appeal to more than Blight will.

*I could be wrong...

Judging by how hard everyone orgasms over Breach or anything similar, I can agree with you.

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DarthSki44 wrote:

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ARC_Paroe wrote:

Did you know; tower defense in ARPGs is actually a lot of fun?
The incredible adventures of van helsing is probably one the most well known ARPGs to have a tower defense section - and it meshes with the gameplay style of a diablo like very well.

So don’t crap on the mechanic just because it isn’t a S P E E D M E T A B O I S mechanic, get your head out of your butt and learn to play the game not roleplay as sonic the hedgehog.

This notion of get aboard the hype train, or you are with us or against us mentality, is pretty exhausting.

It's clear not all leagues are going to work for everyone. I can at least respect the fact you might enjoy it, at the very least you can understand why, I, or others might not.

Again let's see what happens, but if it falls well below Legion, no one should be shocked as to why.

It’s not hype or hate, it’s just don’t hate blindly because it’s not a kill everything in 0.1 seconds on the whole screen league.
You know what the most successful league mechanics are? Mechanics that are not timed and mechanics that any build can do without feeling wasted. Incursion, synthesis, and legion were speed meta leagues, and while legion was successful... it actively punished players who don’t speed meta.


Yes it’s hard to make everyone happy, but when a league forces slowdown like legacy or bestiary it’s suddenly the worst ever because speed meta bois say so, but when anyone says a speed meta league like incursion or breach isn’t fun it’s always “lel get better”.
If blight plays the way I think it does, the league will be a forced slowdown mechanic that everyone will be capable of doing satisfactorily but the speed bois will still complain about because it lowers their maps per minute.

The smell? Oh, it's the diapers of all the babies crying afoul, of course!

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DarthSki44 wrote:

I would say if you put down PoE for the previous year, and then came back to tower defense, and a shadow running around in a glowing tophat, and butterfly wings, you might wonder what the fuck happened.

Maybe this is the frog sitting in the boiling water?

I am just returning from 2 years break. Last thing I played was Harbinger. I feel crushed under the weight and size of entirely independent mechanics of Beasts, Delve and especially Betrayal, though Incursion, Legion and War for Atlas seem smaller or more straightforward. The MTX in towns made me yesterday literally mutter "wait, is that a player or what? The hell..." You could consider me a hardcore traditionalist, I love grind, I have hundreds of hours spent in both Diablo and D2.

And yet, I am very interested in this tower defense. Because apparently I am not genre gamer anymore? I am too old to be speedmetaboi, it will take me a week to reach atlas if not more. I am a casual emeritus, with no skills, but unlike current gen casuals, I love to think, and lacks of skills gives me a lot of time to think. I play for fun, because it's the journey to the goal that makes me happy, not reaching it. Or I have to say this, never being able to kill the big-bad-flavour-of-the-league in any challenge league so far:) And in blight I will try the elder/shaper again, with hope of managing it and expectation to fail again :)

PoE will never draw the mainstream casuals anymore. It was almost too big in beta in 2013 and casuals were smarter then, now it is terrifyingly humungous. And it requires reading! And thinking! But it is fun to play for older people like me, who not only are not afraid to read and think, they like that. But this group will rarely be in agreement with metaspeedrunners, our needs are almost opposite.

I feel the constant introducing of new things is what PoE is about and what sets it apart in a good way. It's clear, the more things they try, the more times they will fail. And yet, the more times they will succeed. And it is good way to keep both casuals emeriti and metaspeedrunning pros happy - because we like new things being tried and you will like SOME of those new things. Not all of them obviously. But if we were getting only "moar monsters, moar loot, moar metas" every league, soon even metaspeedrunning pros would call for new things or lost interest in PoE altogether, and casuals emeriti would find new interesting gaming challenge long before that. Or got into woodworking, crocheting, fishing, idk? With clear net loss for GGG.

it's the worst trailer of path of exile, even if the music composer is absolutely a master, a tower defense, handle towers during the fight, it looks bad but at least if it's not is obligatory as the labyrinth is at least here. I'm afraid it's a bad thing and it hurts me

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DarthSki44 wrote:

Spoiler

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beaniac wrote:

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DarthSki44 wrote:

Basically stop with this gimmicky shit. Catch em all, table top, now tower defense. Enough.

I really like that GGG experiments with lots of different stuff. Sure sometimes you get unfun stuff like Synthesis, but it also results in some really great permanent additions to the game like Delve and helps the game grow and evolve.

The general pattern I've noticed is that they will alternate between experiment leagues like this and crowd pleaser leagues like Legion. This way they can be creative and then smooth things out if the creative league doesn't turn out to be any fun.

Idk that seems weird from a design philosophy point of view. Intentionally putting out leagues that might be awful, when you know what your core playerbase wants, seems flawed.

What if the players you alienated in Synthesis, or now Blight, dont return? Do you really think they can offset that with new players that have never heard of PoE before? I don't see it...

All innovation has an associated risk. The bigger risk though is that if you just crap out the same old reskinned formula, no matter how wonderful it is in the beginning, eventually even the most hard core fans will get tired of it and quit.

Creating a development schedule that allows for a certain amount of continuous innovation while still placating the player base is the best possible solution to give your game longevity. I think GGG has done a fantastic job at this.

Honestly while I did feel like I liked Legion I quit playing it pretty quick. I lost interest and haven't really played PoE in a month and a half. Normally I only have about a week or 2 at the end of the league that I don't play.