[3.26] The Warbringer Slaming Serker [League Starter | Cheap | Smash the Atlas | MELEE BUFFED]

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frawrst wrote:

LOL

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Ground Slam of Earthshaking: Now has a Mana cost of 8 at gem level 1, scaling up to 14 at gem level 20 (previously 8 at all gem levels). Now has 241% Effectiveness of Base and Added Damage at gem level 1 (previously 210%), scaling up to 688% at gem level 20 (previously 340%).

688% dmg LOL

Plus 20% MORE for 20 quality weapon ;)

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OUAriakas wrote:

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frawrst wrote:

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OUAriakas wrote:

I have to assume they are changing Tidebreaker because of the Endurance charge buff? I still think we are going to crush this league. Losing AS on Rage is going to hurt, that is going to be our stat to pump haaaaard now.

they havent mentioned tidebreaker changes: it gives this build 24% ele DR (with 6) which seems very very nice

once we have patch notes ill do a quick run down

seems like a melee league for sure

Ok, so we still get some Attack Speed via Crave the Slaughter...but does Warbringer suck now?

The Berserker's War Bringer Ascendancy Passive Skill no longer provides any of its old properties. It now causes Warcries to Exert twice as many Attacks.

Looks like no change for Tidebreaker in the notes!!

warbringer is still better then the crit node or defy pain probably, makes it less maintenance to rotate warcries for piano players

new flesh and stone looks nuts

looks like overall a big buff for build, we lose totem buffs but move back to full warcry piano

enduring + rallying + intimdating + seismic (it has giga aoe again)

go aspect first, then rage nodes. probably get warbringer as last node (or maybe try defy pain if you dont need double exerts)

once PoB updates ill work on a tree/lvling, probably go hard on the rage nodes to start with and see how they play out

sunder is also giga buffed for lvling

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Sunder: Now has a Mana cost of 8 at gem level 1, scaling up to 13 at gem level 20 (previously 8 at all gem levels). Now has 273% Effectiveness of Base and Added Damage at gem level 1 (previously 220%), scaling up to 629% at gem level 20 (previously 325%).


Sunder of Earthbreaking: Now has a Mana cost of 7 at gem level 1, scaling up to 11 at gem level 20 (previously 7 at all gem levels). Now has 219% Effectiveness of Base and Added Damage at gem level 1 (previously 170%), scaling up to 503% at gem level 20 (previously 250%).

Is the rage capped on 30? or is the phys increase damage capped at 30% no matter how much rage?

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_Neur0mancer_ wrote:

Is the rage capped on 30? or is the phys increase damage capped at 30% no matter how much rage?

there is +10 and +5 on the tree naturally now, so 45 rage = 45 more attack dmg and 45 inc attack speed, x1.5 for rite of ruin

theres also always angry annoint which is another +8 minimum

so now we will get ALOT more rage on hit per slam, and no way to spend it, only lose it via not attacking/doing things for 2s

we can still spend via berserk i think


EDIT: rage masterys also very good

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+7 to Maximum Rage, Inherent loss of Rage is 20% faster
Warcries grant 1 Rage per 5 Enemy Power, up to 5
Nearby Enemies are Intimidated while you have Rage

these 3 will be strong to path to, we can get up to 7-8 rage on hit every 0.5s, plus war on warcry use (1-5 per warcry, we usually use 1-3 warcries)

i dont think generating rage will be hard, and it goes away very quick

Any opinions on tinctures? I really liked using them in Affliction with this build. especially the one that added free extra shock on hit or enemy explosion.
Granted, 75% increased tincture effect per empty flask slot is missing. But they seem to be pretty accessible this patch and only cost one flask slot

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BerZerkerJack wrote:

Any opinions on tinctures? I really liked using them in Affliction with this build. especially the one that added free extra shock on hit or enemy explosion.
Granted, 75% increased tincture effect per empty flask slot is missing. But they seem to be pretty accessible this patch and only cost one flask slot

they were very strong in affliction, now they are nerfed and alt rollable

should be pretty strong for 1 potion slot, altho the mana mgmt might be super annoying

would need to see the new tincture affixes

https://pathofpathing.com/?v=3.25.0-pre#AAAABgECOzoABS0S4RQGFE0XmxiRHWgk_y1ML4k2Yjy3Pfxf0GCMYJFhs2HHaGVrHmyebRtvO3Juehl82X37ggeDeYO2jM-RzpLQnP2kGbhHvTa-p8aaxqrLXc9-0lDTb9RE4NjkUefH6hDqf-5A8j_0QvR8-oD8S_5T_3O4RwAA


some thoughts for a tentative tree

didnt path all the way up to third endurance charge by templar currently and went for the bunch of +rage value

skipping measured fury since warbringer doubles our amounts (so i dont think we'll need extra)

3.25 exerts
seismic 6 -> 12 (7-14 with measured)
rallying 5 -> 10 (6-12 with measured)
intimidating 2 -> 4 (3-6 with measured)

will probably need to see how it feels in game to see if warbringer/measured is overkill for our amounts of warcries + exert uptime





the mana costs are going to be interesting, grabbing the spirit of war wheel early (and maybe swapping it to cannibalistic rite later)


most of our attack skills got 90-100% more mana cost at lvl 20



this is our old GS, 22 mana cost. we'd normally use stuff like elreon rings to reduce it -7 x2 down to 7 etc. now it will cost 40-50 mana per slam, so we will need to manage our reservation/mana pool/costs more. maybe lifetap for a long time

we got a new 3 point mace wheel near bottom, will need to pob it vs the current bonebreaker/skull cracker wheel to see what is more value, aoe vs attack speed (my sense is attack speed for comfy)

everyone gets access to 50% chance to overwhelm 100% via bastion breaker, making those garbage physical DR rares much easy to burst down



i think investing in all the rage nodes is good, because rite of ruin is +50% and berserk skill itself is +59%, meaning we get more than double the regular effect during berserk burst (and our hits give 7-9 rage every 0.5s, and warcry give 2-5 rage on use)

max rage is currently 48 (53 with some more tree invest, not sure yet if using that many points is worth)

48% more attack dmg at full, x 2.09 = 100.32% more attack damage on full rage
same with attack speed, 100% inc
and with armour via vengence node, 100% inc

with rage mastery
1% increased Movement Speed per 5 Rage
this rounds down to 45/9% ms, x 2.09 = 18% ms

old rage was about 150% inc attack damage, 75% attack speed, 20-30% ms

Hey Fraurst what do you think of the auto exert that replaces call to arms ?

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Call to Arms: Has been renamed to Autoexertion. It now reserves 15% Mana per Supported Warcry to cause those Warcries to be repeatedly triggered. Autoexertion Support can now support multiple Warcries, and no longer causes Warcries to share Cooldowns. It now grants Supported Skills 0–19% increased Cooldown Recovery Rate (previously 30–11% reduced Cooldown Recovery Rate), and now has "Supported Warcries do not grant Buffs or Charges to you or Allies". It also now cannot support Retaliation Skills. Quality now grants Supported Skills 0–10% increased Cooldown Recovery Rate (previously 0–5%).