[3.7] CI CoC Discharge by Rico (It's been a long time my friend...) all content, Uber Elder down

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RicoKGB wrote:


First one is not CI but you got me on last one! :)



First one has a CI version tho)

Note sure if any other threads exist, ppl just didn't bothered posting, but there are YouTube videos, some Reddit discussions and asian forums (i don't wanna even start digging there, since it will take forever).

Thanks for an adequate reaction, mate)
So I finally managed to craft my own "Dream Dagger" however I misstep on that spell dmg roll (well shit happens). So as a word of advice for anyone crafting Vagan Dagger in near future: dont save on that 1ex spell dmg craft on allready 5ex worth Dagger.

Anyway I can allready tell that Vagan Dagger is a noticable improvement over allready high 95% chance to hit. I jumped from 1.2 mil to 1.4 mil Shaper DPS even tho I lost 35% spell dmg increase from my previous dagger and I lost 35% crit multi from my jewel - I had to buy for now a cheap piece of garbage jewel with +fire to dagger attacks (will upgrade later).



T16 Mino DPS check vid with Vagan Dagger:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rqd4IhzQGD4



EDIT: Uber Elder down at my first attempt with the build:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9odFtpNMio

3 Deaths so it can be done better.
Guides:
3.7 CI CoC Discharge: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2605608
3.7 Chilling CI Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2574749
3.7 Juggernaut life Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1846362
Last edited by RicoKGB on Jul 29, 2019, 1:33:45 PM
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RicoKGB wrote:
So I finally managed to craft my own "Dream Dagger" however I misstep on that spell dmg roll (well shit happens). So as a word of advice for anyone crafting Vagan Dagger in near future: dont save on that 1ex spell dmg craft on allready 5ex worth Dagger.

Anyway I can allready tell that Vagan Dagger is a noticable improvement over allready high 95% chance to hit. I jumped from 1.2 mil to 1.4 mil Shaper DPS even tho I lost 35% spell dmg increase from my previous dagger and I lost 35% crit multi from my jewel - I had to buy for now a cheap piece of garbage jewel with +fire to dagger attacks (will upgrade later).



T16 Mino DPS check vid with Vagan Dagger:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rqd4IhzQGD4



EDIT: Uber Elder down at my first attempt with the build:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9odFtpNMio

3 Deaths so it can be done better.


i thought a vagan dagger isnt needed? so the other dagger with 3 support gem mods are worst then that? :o
Of course it is not needed. Build play well without it - all the gameplay vids are without Vagan Dagger unless specified. Vagan Dagger is just an upgrade that can be done if someone wants to. In my case it improved my Shaper DPS from 1.2mil to 1.4mil and that's it.


EDIT: Finally upgraded my ring ;) Gonna do new DPS check on Mino tomorrow.

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Guides:
3.7 CI CoC Discharge: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2605608
3.7 Chilling CI Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2574749
3.7 Juggernaut life Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1846362
Last edited by RicoKGB on Jul 29, 2019, 5:20:16 PM
hello! :)

how would you spend your last few skillpoints up to lvl 100? :)

was thinking about the tree and i'm not sure whats the best for the final points :D how important are +1 charges of power/frenzy charges?

i mean we could get +1 power and +1 frenzy or skip that frenzy and get +3 powercharges.. :D

For example the +3 power charges tree: https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/3.7.4/AAAABAYCAQFvBAcJIA18D8QRlhZAFy8achzcHRQdTx8CHxggBiBuKPosvy0fL9YzbDW5NsU3TTt8PexBlkcGSVFJsUyDTLNQMFBCUXRR-1IpUzVV1lXgVkhXyVgxWFpca19qY0NkvWTnZlRmnmobbAhwUnBWcNRxhXIPdIF9sH5Zf8aApICzhEiFfYnTi3qMNox2jmSO6Y8aj0aP-pFHkyeUb5TxlSCYraEvoqOmmacIpyupQK6ztDi2-rcxuJO4yrmTvYK-isHFwfPDCcNtzRbQH9DQ0PXXz9gk2rna3dvU2-ff8-L35RnpM-tj6-7r9ewY74jv6_DV8YryHfLh96b3wfiX-Tf5pPrS-_U=?accountName=Ayrill&realm=pc&characterName=AutoHerald

wanna grind that level 100 until season end but not sure whats most useful :D
How's this look?

Although, it didn't quite feel as strong. Checked it in pob and doesn't seem like an upgrade.

Last edited by iiDWESTii on Jul 30, 2019, 9:30:52 AM
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iiDWESTii wrote:
How's this look?

Although, it didn't quite feel as strong. Checked it in pob and doesn't seem like an upgrade.



Looks good. On paper (in PoB) it doesnt seem like much of an improvement (if any) but this is one of those 'mechanical' things that PoB cant simulate.

You can see in my T16 Mino dps check (with and without a Vagan Dagger) theres a difference in DPS (shorter kill time with Vagan Dagger). If you know what to look for you can also observe that with Vagan Dagger there is higher frequency of Discharges aka more Discharges per sec. Build is smoother, less clunky. Even that non-vagan build has allready 95% chance to hit.

It is hard to explain maybe but for someone who plays trigger builds a lot, especially Discharge, there is a difference in 'feel' and in how 'smooth' the build goes. Its not a night and day difference over an allready high 95% chance to hit but it is a noticable difference.


@Ayrill there are several options past 95 but first I will suggest some minor tree adjustment.

Now with Vagan Dagger you dont need lvl 15 Precision - buy lvl 1 Precision and lvl it up to 3. This will allow you to free one "4% reduced mana reserved" in Sovereignty cluster so you can take Sovereignty for 3 points instead of 4 and you will gain "6% increased effect of non-curse auras". You will gain 1 passive skill point, about +50 ES, 1% more spell dmg on Zealotry and +2% all ress from lvl 20 Purity of Elements, you will loose about 13% global crit chance from lvl 15 Precision but thats more than ok for a trade-off. That 1 passive skill point put into Annihilation so your tree should look like this: click

Now on lvl 92 grab Influence. This will boost your all auras nicely for even more ES (Discipline), crit chance (Precision) and spell dmg (Zealotry).

Than at lvl 94 grab Foresight ES node (or respec out of Throatseeker and grab it earlier).

Than work your way for Divine judgement which you can grab at lvl 98 (click) You can also respec out of Throatseeker and have it done at lvl 95 which I recommend to do so. Than after lvl 95 you can retake Throatseeker at lvl 98. At 100 you can go for a) Coldhearted Calculation or b) Arcanist's Dominion or c) Deep Wisdom. Whatever you like better.


EDIT: My new ring is kicking some serious butt:

T16 Mino DPS check: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RWELSonfXM

I went up from 1.4mil to 1.66mil because of 'double chance' (frenzy + power) Precursor's Emblem. So in short: Vagan Dagger 1.2 -> 1.4 mil DPS, double Precursor's 1.4 -> 1.66 mil DPS.

I think that at lvl 98 (Throatseeker taken) + some triple crit multi jewels 2mil Shaper DPS can be achieved with this build. This is without any "aspect of the spider" or "RF/vaal RF" bullshit.
Guides:
3.7 CI CoC Discharge: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2605608
3.7 Chilling CI Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2574749
3.7 Juggernaut life Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1846362
Last edited by RicoKGB on Jul 30, 2019, 12:03:06 PM
For mapping i remove Frost bomb and i use
, only 4 secs but it´s amazing boost!!!!

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Hi Rico,

Can you please give us your thoughts on the following items:

- Compare DEFENSE of this build, with your recent trickster chilling CI mjolner and with your JUGG version of MJOLNER

- Compare DPS of this build with your trickster chilling CI mjolner


I must say that I have a large preference on tanky builds. And that would be ideal for me if a build could be as tanky as your mjolner jugg version, but with more DPS of what he used to be.


Thanks in advance !

Last edited by astrolab2000 on Jul 30, 2019, 12:06:16 PM
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astrolab2000 wrote:
Hi Rico,

Can you please give us your thoughts on the following items:

- Compare DEFENSE of this build, with your recent trickster chilling CI mjolner and with your JUGG version of MJOLNER

- Compare DPS of this build with your trickster chilling CI mjolner


I must say that I have a large preference on tanky builds. And that would be ideal for me if a build could be as tanky as your mjolner jugg version, but with more DPS of what he used to be.


Thanks in advance !



Here you go:

Spoiler


In short I think that Chilling MJ will be best suited for you. And you can allways evolve into CI CoC Discharge with it as most of the gear and tree are the same.
Guides:
3.7 CI CoC Discharge: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2605608
3.7 Chilling CI Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2574749
3.7 Juggernaut life Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1846362
Last edited by RicoKGB on Jul 30, 2019, 1:23:55 PM

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