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SunL4D2 wrote:
So you don't do even third of what Nexus has to offer and claim you enjoy it? Interesting.
Yes, because guess what, if you ignore all bad things this league has (because it CAN be ignored) you can enjoy this league.
I cant understand why people think you are FORCED to do EVERYTHING in this game. Do things you enjoy, skip things you dont like. THAT SIMPLE.
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Posted byAynix#7757on May 2, 2019, 8:22:17 AMOn Probation
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SunL4D2 wrote:
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Faendris wrote:
I do the following:
1. Farm Elder City Square untill uber elder influence pops
2. Do guardians and uber elder
3. Do nexus whenever a nexus boss pops up (every 2 or 3 maps or so) and I have enough memory fragments
4. Do betrayal and delve if they pop
This is extremely satsisfying since:
1. Sustain is trivial, I don't need to buy stuff (including maps). On very rare occasions I need to stock up on vaal orbs, chisels an white sextants.
2. Gameplay is just a hell lot of fun, I slaughter hordes of stuff, have frequent boss encounters and loot stuff. No mircromanagement, nof MF stuff just plain action. Also, due to synthesized bases there is basically no limit on how I can improve my gear.
3.) The drops are actually rewarding - I never before sold so many items in the 20c to 1ex price range. In particular the fractured items dropped by memory bosses are really great. Without any mf and with only doing what I love to do, I make about 2-3 ex an hour.
4.) I just love onlaught boots.
Why do I post this: this has changed a lot with the main synthesis patch. If you left before that time or gave up on synthesis: do yourself a favour and give it another try with the upcoming flashback event.
So you don't do even third of what Nexus has to offer and claim you enjoy it? Interesting.
As someone who actually does lots of Nexus I can't disagree more. There is just too much filler things like awful memories, awful reward memories, awful memory modifiers, awful memory amplifiers and you have to do them anyway, because caps at each corner won't allow something good to spawn otherwise.
Let's go into details. Memories with Assorted items (unless they have maps), Fractured items, Unique items, Weapons, Jewellry, Armour, even Divination cards (can they have valuable or very valuable items? I never seen it and drops so far are worse than from random Diviner's box) are absolute dogshit and just dilute reward memories pool.
Rarity, 300% experience instead of items, quantity, guest monsters replaced with synthesised monsters, tripple the value are useles memory amplifiers.
Pretty much every single memory modifier is either useles or underwhelming - the only good mods are as follows - fossil, quality currency (until it's fixed), divination card related ones and shaper, elder, fractured items related mods for i86 setups. As well as corresponding mods to increase monster count like extra rare monster. That's basically it. There is like 10 useless memory modifiers for one worth running.
Memories themselves don't scale with size of instance, so the best memories are outdoors small ones. While they are not that rare, there is still one more thing - they can have 2 charges. 2 charges is pure cancer...
Sometimes you just have to clear whole Nexus of these useless memories, feels fucking bad man. Setting up memory farm takes forever, because of sheer number of bad memory modifiers.
Not even talking about fractured items and synthesisng. Two biggest fails of this League. Rich af people are having a blast though. I am glad they do :)
Oh, and just when I started having fun with Synthesis they announced flashback. RIP.
At least they gonna fix decay soon. Took just 2 months. So many issues are still plaguing the League though, some really easy to fix like Stabilizer's UI or random number of charges on memories.
I fully agree with your assessment of the reward nodes (other than harbinger which is really nice) in particular memory modifiers.Just ignore them. It really is no problem if there is stuff that is not fun if it can be safely skipped.
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Posted byFaendris#5470on May 2, 2019, 8:52:45 AM
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Saying "you cant enjoy Syntehsis if you skip crafting/fiddling with memory modifiers" is like saying "you cant enjoy Delve unless you are fossil crafting your items and going into the darkness for extra reward".
If its optional, I dont like it and I can skip it, I will skip it. By doing that I will enjoy league more.
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Posted byAynix#7757on May 2, 2019, 8:55:52 AMOn Probation
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Yes, because guess what, if you ignore all bad things this league has (because it CAN be ignored) you can enjoy this league.
I cant understand why people think you are FORCED to do EVERYTHING in this game. Do things you enjoy, skip things you dont like. THAT SIMPLE.
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Saying "you cant enjoy Syntehsis if you skip crafting/fiddling with memory modifiers" is like saying "you cant enjoy Delve unless you are fossil crafting your items and going into the darkness for extra reward".
If its optional, I dont like it and I can skip it, I will skip it. By doing that I will enjoy league more.
I'd rather people constructively pointed out the clear mishaps with things like Nexus, than ignored them and carried on about their day.
Every developer that wants to improve their product _thrives_ on feedback, so trust me when I tell you that you are not doing anybody at GGG a favour with your attitude, actually the exact opposite.
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Posted byarandan#3174on May 2, 2019, 8:59:27 AM
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Im not saying Syntehsis doesnt have flaws. I already said, not sure if in this thread, that I would delete entirely decay from Nexus and I would either remove factured items and synthetizer or rework it completly. That aside, I still enjoy this league because I just ignore those things and treat this league as simple "here you have a lot of extra monsters to kill" type of league which people love.
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Posted byAynix#7757on May 2, 2019, 9:06:14 AMOn Probation
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What I'm pointing out is that as long as the feedback is constructive, it should always be welcome.
Obviously we'll find ways to have fun in Synthesis, but if that means skipping the majority of the league's mechanics, then clearly there is a problem that needs fixing and you can't even begin to work on that as a developer without feedback from your consumer base.
Hence the 'just ignore it' attitude is at odds with where both the developer and every fan of this product wants to go.
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Posted byarandan#3174on May 2, 2019, 9:13:06 AM
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Good for OP that you enjoy the league, but the majority didn't so it is not going core for now. For me this is good news, but I still think it is positive that GGG dares to try new things. It is the only way to evolve the game. Having that said there is no shame in admitting it was a miss vs what the majority wanted. Move on and keep on testing new stuff. Hopefully a bit more polished next time :)
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Posted byarknath#4740on May 2, 2019, 10:30:33 AM
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Good for OP that you enjoy the league, but the majority didn't so it is not going core for now. For me this is good news, but I still think it is positive that GGG dares to try new things. It is the only way to evolve the game. Having that said there is no shame in admitting it was a miss vs what the majority wanted. Move on and keep on testing new stuff. Hopefully a bit more polished next time :)
I am totally fine with them taking time and possibly rework it. My point is only that if you just play the stuff that is fun in this league right now it is very satisfying and rewarding. Even to an extent where i stopped delving (while having full sulphite) since focussing on the memory nexus is more fun and provides better rewards.
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Posted byFaendris#5470on May 2, 2019, 10:36:02 AM
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Aynix wrote:
They forget about shitton of monsters they killed for free in that time.
you'd kill those monsters anyway, you can't compare it like 15 minutes of synthesis vs 15 minutes of nothing its 15 minutes of synthesis vs 15 minutes of mapping.
The best case scenarios for synthesis are fantastic you get maps absolutely rammed full of mobs, the worst though are pretty bad the layout/decay can be worse than torture chamber as can the mob density.
If you don't run memory modifiers maps are almost certainly better, it tips the other way if you suitably stack mods on your memories.
@OP glad you found a way to play it that you really enjoyed, there is never anything wrong with that
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Posted byDraegnarrr#2823on May 2, 2019, 12:11:42 PM
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Faendris wrote:
I actually enjoy synthesis and the memory nexus more than any other league
And your opinion is bad pretty much by default. No explanation needed.
Guys, making proper use of memory modifiers is a given. It's still a shit league. IDingshitrares...I mean Synthesis, is the worst league ever.
Last edited by DamageIncorporated#7815 on May 2, 2019, 2:01:15 PM
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