Are We Losing Sight Of What Beta Means?
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many developers are asking for donations (kickstarter) and in return get access to the game when it releases and other extras.
Personally have donated to 2 and will continue. |
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It's not inconsistent. You are nitpicking and equaling beta to a finished product.
Can you get in for free? Yes. Can they open the beta yet with their server capability and amount of content done? No. Open beta is in two months and it will be free. What GGG is selling is 10$ towards the ingame cash shop for cosmetics, and a two month earlier access. Tribes Ascend had a similar closed beta period. You could get lucky and find a key, or you could pre-order the game for 30$ and get beta access along with a bunch of tribes gold to use in their cash shop. (Tribes gold can't be earned in-game obviously) |
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i only read the OP, but people are WANTING to pay to get into the beta to support and fund this game. this game is very fun and people want to test the game while having fun. in my opinion, GGG needs people to do this, they need people to have the mind set that they're going to play the beta to get an understanding before the game releases. because when they find builds that are extremely effects, or OP, GGG can nerf them. better having the nerfing done before release and not post release.
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" In part, I agree. The majority of those who want in are looking to play the game as opposed to test, but I don't really see how that hurts things. The testing community will continue to contribute as they they always have. The playing community will also contribute in two ways - by providing a long term stress test and by helping capitalize the devs' efforts - which we'll all benefit from in the end. |
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I read the majority of replies to this post (not everything) and as I can understand the dispute is regarding the meaning of the "donation":
-if you donate, why you expect something in return ? -if you get beta acces, why don't say: I bought my beta key, paying for a future service. I don't know New Zeeland tax and financial laws, but the "donation" could have different treatment in a company income statement than "selling" activity. Maybe GGG is not yet prepared organizationally or economically for selling by microtransaction, but can accept a donation like any non-profit organization. Selling something (a good or service) to thousand of people would request a more developed infrastucture (billing, bank account management, VAT charging, VAT declaration, lot of administrative work and IS tools), while accepting a donation is not a commercial activity. Think about the "donation" by this point of view... |
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I'll donate for or buy a Beta Key. The language used really has no bearing on my views. It's not like I am going to do a tax write off for a 10 dollar donation.
It's a service people asked for. People are stating they will pay money to test this product. Even if they don't conform to the perfect beta tester fantasy, they will still help test server loads, cash shop, and billing. (shutupandtakemymoney.gif) |
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The only problem with with pay access to a 'closed beta' is that the forum devolves into a big miasma of threads that no longer have much value from a development perspective.
PoE is fairly close to open beta anyways, so at this point I think it is a good gesture on GGG's part to accede to the desires of their potential customer base, rather than alienate them so close to release. "We were going to monitor the situation but it was in the wrong aspect ratio."
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" Fixed your message for the reality version. |
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As I said before purely playing the game will still uncover glitches and bugs that need fixing.
And you might want to avoid "fixing" people's posts. Highly condensing. In fact the whole "beta testers must be perfect and not only play the game" argument smacks of elitism and entitlement. Which contribute nothing to the community. Anyone else see the irony here? Open beta will mostly be about game usability, stability, and polishing up areas players didn't like. Feedback on all of that requires simply playing the game. Perhaps you might want to do a reality check yourself before calling people out. |
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Haven't any1 tgt that maybe GGG is testing the Microtransaction?
Perm. Retired from this unforgiving land of the Exiles.
Self-impost EXILED. |
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