PlayStation 4 Release Date: March 26th

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Bezmageddon wrote:

After months and months its finally arrived happy days just wondering will you be able to play the game without PS Plus?

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Pobatti wrote:

Trouble is, games downloaded from the PSN are forever tied (licensed) to the account which originally downloaded them. If a European uses an alt US account to download the game, he'll be able to play the game on his main EU PSN account as long as the US account exists on his PS4 console, but he won't be able to buy any MTX.

If he tried to buy MTX, the game would either give him an error (unable to find US-region MTX on the EU-PSN), or he'd be taken to the US PSN Store where he'd need to purchase that MTX in US Dollars rather than his local currency. That opens up a huge can of worms, because although it's easy to create alternate-region PSN accounts by using false details, you'd need to have some kind of legitimate payment method set-up to fund the account which is much harder to do in a way that isn't fraudulent, long-winded, risky or expensive.

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Pobatti wrote:

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VILAmoureux wrote:

I'll believe it when I'm playing on the PS4. GGG is less trustworthy than Todd Howard at this point. With the 3 week delay are we going to get screwed over on just this league or are we only going to get leagues after others have spoiled every last thing about them?

I feel the same way, and it's the reason why I'm not exactly screaming from the rooftops. GGG announced the game way too early before they even had their plan figured-out, and that's lead to the delays we've waited through thus far.

However the biggest problem is still ahead: Sony. The vast majority of delays of digital games on Sony platforms is due to incompetance on Sony's end, where games aren't added to the store when they're supposed to, or aren't added to all of the stores.

An early-warning of this can be seen on the Playstation site. Path of Exile does have a product page on the US Playstation site, but not on the European site or other-region sites:

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/path-of-exile-ps4/

My prediction is, on the 26th March the game will go-live on the US PSN Store, but fail to show-up on the EU (and other region) Stores. Complaints will flood-in to GGG by players unable to find the game, leading to GGG spending a week or two communicating with Sony to try and solve the problem. That will culminate in other region versions being delayed anywhere from a week to two months.

Problem is, people won't wait for the game to release locally. Many will simply create US PSN accounts to download and play the game, and that method will work perfectly well for those who just want to be able to log-in and play.

Trouble is, games downloaded from the PSN are forever tied (licensed) to the account which originally downloaded them. If a European uses an alt US account to download the game, he'll be able to play the game on his main EU PSN account as long as the US account exists on his PS4 console, but he won't be able to buy any MTX.

If he tried to buy MTX, the game would either give him an error (unable to find US-region MTX on the EU-PSN), or he'd be taken to the US PSN Store where he'd need to purchase that MTX in US Dollars rather than his local currency. That opens up a huge can of worms, because although it's easy to create alternate-region PSN accounts by using false details, you'd need to have some kind of legitimate payment method set-up to fund the account which is much harder to do in a way that isn't fraudulent, long-winded, risky or expensive.

Or, to put everything I've said another way, GGG may be about to be stuck in a situation where huge chunks of it's console player-base are trapped in a situation where they're simply *unable* to buy MTX, followed by a subsequent likely unwillingness to spend hours redownloading a 16GB game they're already enjoying just to enable a feature that lets them buy a stash tab or cosmetic. They'll want it patched-in to the version of the game they already have installed, and won't be happy if they're told that they need to delete the game and reinstall from their own-region PSN Store.

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makarijepoe wrote:

Prediction and assumption are mothers of all fuck-ups so better leave it as it is, we will see how it will be

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Pobatti wrote:

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makarijepoe wrote:

Prediction and assumption are mothers of all fuck-ups so better leave it as it is, we will see how it will be

That's only the case when prediction and assumption can affect the outcome. This situation is out of our hands, and out of GGG's hands. All that remains is our excitement and anticipation of the game which needs to be kept in-check.

Expect something or everything to go wrong, then when it does you're not disappointed because you expected it. Expect the game to actually release on time without any problems and you're just inviting disappointment: lots of us made that mistake with this very game many times already.

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signonthe wrote:

Well,
GGG: We are willing to release PoE on PS Store.
Sony: You can after performance test.

After a while..

GGG: We are done codding etc. We are ready for it.
Sony: Guys, they are ready. Start to make store page for PoE.

After Performance Test..

Sony: GGG, you need to improve performance of the game.
GGG: Ugh! We need to improve performance.
Sony 1: Guys, store pages for PoE is canceled for now.
Sony 2: But, I released US store page.
Sony 1: Well, leave it be. Do not release rest.

Do we talking assumptions?