POE 4K gaming question

My setup is now 2500k @4ghz and 8gb ram with GTX 1080. My monitor is 38uc99, which is a 3840*1600. I can get steady 60fps in HO but dip in maps to under 30 fps quite frequently and sometimes utterly unplayable(Windripper MF tornado shot). Using 850 EVO at the moment.

My question is, if I change it to 2700x + 32gb ddr4 3200 ram, will this give me steady 60 fps in most situations? In other words, will I see a major improvements with those investments? In fact, the new cpu+ram+MB combo is on the road but as I read more I realised it might be the 4K resolution that makes the fps miserable.

Please let me know your thoughts!

PoE is almost entirely bottlenecked by your GPU and I am amazed you can run at even 60 fps even in your hideout at that resolution. 4k gaming imo is just not worth it until the technology can catch up and poe is so miserably optimized that you will need 1-2 years on top of that for GGG to catch up.

The 2500k was a champ for it's time albiet a bit outdated by now, however, it is very questionable if you would see frame rate gains. As for the ram I do not think its going to make a difference unless you have 40 chrome tabs going to eat up all your ram.

What I would suggest is to run msi afterburner wih GPU and CPU utilization in game display enabled and see if your CPU is actually being fully utilized.

PErsonally, I have a gtx 1080ti and iy 8700k 4.8ghz at 1440p 120fps and my cpu pretty much never goes past 50% utilization where as my GPU is basically always at 100% unless in hideout.

thanks!

Do you have 120 fps steady all the time? If so, I might have to buy a new monitor instead of a new setup. I would definitely use the afterburner to check my CPU and GPU usage.

Thank you again for the great tip.

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XiaoXiaoZhu wrote:

My setup is now 2500k @4ghz and 8gb ram with GTX 1080. My monitor is 38uc99, which is a 3840*1600. I can get steady 60fps in HO but dip in maps to under 30 fps quite frequently and sometimes utterly unplayable(Windripper MF tornado shot). Using 850 EVO at the moment.

My question is, if I change it to 2700x + 32gb ddr4 3200 ram, will this give me steady 60 fps in most situations? In other words, will I see a major improvements with those investments? In fact, the new cpu+ram+MB combo is on the road but as I read more I realised it might be the 4K resolution that makes the fps miserable.

Please let me know your thoughts!

Why 32gb of ram??

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XiaoXiaoZhu wrote:

thanks!

Do you have 120 fps steady all the time? If so, I might have to buy a new monitor instead of a new setup. I would definitely use the afterburner to check my CPU and GPU usage.

Thank you again for the great tip.

My fps during most of playtime is around 90-110, in the very worst scenarios it will drop down as low as 60-80 (think t16 elder map with abyss on top of breach on top of multi sextant mobs). I think even the generation of GTX cards - 3080ti would probly still not be able to give 120 fps min fps but performance now is still worlds better than it was 1 year ago.

There was a recent optimization on the server that helped fps a lot in the sense that getting 0 fps drops which literally stutters your screen is now much much more rare, with more fixes like this the poe 4k 60 fps steady dream might be a reality one day.

I used to run 3840x2160 60Hz on an i7-8700K w/ a 1080 Ti without issues, so I'd say you'll probably be fine. Not completely certain a regular 1080 will manage 60fps under all circumstances, but I feel quite confident it will manage 60fps.

I later changed to a 2560x1440 monitor at 165Hz and my 1080 Ti struggled a bit with that. I capped the game at 120Hz and it was mostly fine with that, although it did dip below 100 sometimes even at this lower resolution. Recently upgraded to a 2080 Ti and now things are very smooth. PoE pushes the card really hard, though - it's mostly pinned at 100% usage. CPU usage is fine, and doesn't break much of a sweat. CPU usage overall has improved immensely since the multi-threaded engine arrived with the DX11 update. Make sure you have it enabled, it really makes a world of difference.

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Ceri wrote:

I used to run 3840x2160 60Hz on an i7-8700K w/ a 1080 Ti without issues, so I'd say you'll probably be fine. Not completely certain a regular 1080 will manage 60fps under all circumstances, but I feel quite confident it will manage 60fps.

I later changed to a 2560x1440 monitor at 165Hz and my 1080 Ti struggled a bit with that. I capped the game at 120Hz and it was mostly fine with that, although it did dip below 100 sometimes even at this lower resolution. Recently upgraded to a 2080 Ti and now things are very smooth. PoE pushes the card really hard, though - it's mostly pinned at 100% usage. CPU usage is fine, and doesn't break much of a sweat. CPU usage overall has improved immensely since the multi-threaded engine arrived with the DX11 update. Make sure you have it enabled, it really makes a world of difference.

Does your 2080ti ever go below 100 fps even in the most extreme of conditions with the laggiest build you have? I have considered getting one but based on benchmarks, reviews, and how dated poe's engine is, it seems like a very small gain in fps.

It probably depends a lot on country, but the price difference between cards is pretty linear compared to performance until you get to the 2080 vs 2080ti, its a huge jump in price for the performance gain compared to 1060, 2060, 1070, 2070, 1080 etc.

And honestly i don't like playing PoE on a standard screen size due to how tiny the visible area is, so i normally play something closer to a letterbox size with poe.trade tabs above the game window. I'm not sure if thats a positive (due to less pixel space) or negative (due to not fullscreen) impact on performance since im only taking up ~3/4 of the screen space.

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Nephalim wrote:

Does your 2080ti ever go below 100 fps even in the most extreme of conditions with the laggiest build you have? I have considered getting one but based on benchmarks, reviews, and how dated poe's engine is, it seems like a very small gain in fps.

Actually, it doesn't really. Sometimes things slow down and stutter but I'm fairly sure that's due to Lockstep and nothing else.

For reference, I just played a Coves map with Beyond, huge packsize, full of cultists with all their effects spam. Running a Winter Orb Elementalist build with Herald of Ice + Thunder. There is a lot of effects going on, safe to say. I raised the frame cap to 144 and set the card to full performance (I normally run it in "silent mode" because I hate fan noise) and honestly, it wouldn't break a sweat. Typical GPU usage hovered around 70% during the map and the frame rate seemed a steady 144fps. I can tell you for sure that did not happen with my 1080 Ti, which I used daily since it was launched.

So, based on that I'd say it's totally worth it. Except that it's ludicrously expensive and totally not worth the asking price, but hey. :)

It most likely depends a great deal on nation, however the value contrast between cards is really straight contrasted with execution until you get to the 2080 versus 2080ti, its an immense hop in cost for the execution gain contrasted with 1060, 2060, 1070, 2070, 1080 and so forth.

What's more, genuinely I don't care for playing PoE on a standard screen estimate because of how modest the noticeable region is, so I regularly play something more like a letterbox measure with poe.trade tabs over the amusement window. I don't know whether that is a positive (because of less pixel space) or negative (due to not fullscreen) sway on execution since im just taking up ~3/4 of the screen space.