POE skin prices... too high?

Even though i think spending money on games is something that player should do.
At this point if i like the game and its giving me good way to kill my spare time. I think that i should support the game development by buying their stuff.

Since people who develop and keep it going must get paid too. Right?

yet... I see POE prices little bit too high.

I dont know the facts or their income, but for me it seems that if u have decent player base. Lets say at least 50k and if they each spend about 10EUR per month. Game is earning half million euros per month.

So this should cover about 50 workers with 5000Eur a month and still have a lot to spend on whatever.


In few months i have spent few hundred Euros on POE.
Thinking that all right, i was just working at Finland.
Getting 3000Eur per month. i can spend some more on a game and
there should be some nice leftover from supporter packs for months.
Even if i get some random fancy stuff (Portals, skill effects, armour set etc. Also some stuff that is needed: Stash tabs.

I am out of points again :D

200 points left. This is maximum one time payment if one does not buy supporter pack.

And here is the problem. With max normal payment one cant even get one armour set.

It seems kinda too high.

For me it would be normal to pay 10-20 Euros a month but for the money i would also like to feel the shopping pleasures.

Like: One armour set, few decorations for hideout and mby some skins.
Every month. Would be nice.

But tbh i cant see my self spending a hundred Euros every month on a game.

Especcialy while at Estonia. Minimum wage: 500 Euros. normal wages: 700-1200. Appartment for a month 100-300 a month. Thats a physical living space :D


So anyone else thinking that, poe is great but their prices could actually hurt them? Since i think a lot people completely refuse shopping if they see prices too high.

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Z3r0Maz3 wrote:

I dont know the facts or their income, but for me it seems that if u have decent player base. Lets say at least 50k and if they each spend about 10EUR per month. Game is earning half million euros per month.

So this should cover about 50 workers with 5000Eur a month and still have a lot to spend on whatever.

Afaik they have a bigger staff, but even if your calculation is right, there are alot of other costs except the wages of the local workers.
The office, the servers (around the world), the hardware for development, software, taxes, fees etc.
I dont want to say you're totally wrong, i just want to say that there might be more stuff that needs to be paid than you are thinking about.

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Z3r0Maz3 wrote:

200 points left. This is maximum one time payment if one does not buy supporter pack.

And here is the problem. With max normal payment one cant even get one armour set.

It seems kinda too high.

Most of the stuff included in the supporter packs is pure bonus if you spend enough money. the 2 small ones offer 50 points less, at the bigger ones you get the points 1:1 compared to buying 20€ packs and alot of stuff on top of this.

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Z3r0Maz3 wrote:

So anyone else thinking that, poe is great but their prices could actually hurt them? Since i think a lot people completely refuse shopping if they see prices too high.

The prices are high, yes, but im fine with them, since most of it is cosmetics. Even the stash tabs are optional. It would be less comfortable, but it is possible to play without them.

Besides that, keep in mind that there are next to zero consumables in the shop. You can use all the stuff you buy as long as your account exists. This is a big difference compared to alot of other f2p games.

"Too high" is very subjective. Too high for you? Maybe. But people are buying them in such quantities that GGG goes with huge surplus every year. So are the prices too high for GGG to earn money? No.

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Phrazz wrote:

"Too high" is very subjective. Too high for you? Maybe. But people are buying them in such quantities that GGG goes with huge surplus every year. So are the prices too high for GGG to earn money? No.

Yes. As if you read my post. While im earning 3k a month i dont see a big prob spending 100 per month if they give out great content.


Since now im back at Estonia earning about 1k a month it now seems too high.
so yeah. For me atm its too damn high. I would spend some more but it would end up me regretting the money spent. 40Eur per clothing set in a mostly solo game.
I mean i spend 40Eur and there isnt even no "show off" factor. So it seems smarter to simply stop shopping until they come out with next league and new supporter packs. However cheaper prices would lead me to spend little bit more :D

Just because you have had your income change does not mean the prices are too high.


Ok, let's take the Pitfighter Supporter pack as an example.

Full armour set (420 points Value = 45$)
Back Attachment (320 Points Value = 35$)
Helmet effect (150 Points Value = 15$)
Apparition Effect (Not available to buy in Shop)
Weapon Effect (150 Points Value = 15$) -
Portrait Frame (Not available to buy in Shop)
Plus you get 550 (55$)
And digital Soundtrack.

So for 60$ support, you get over 160$ worth of items and points.
Damn, that is pretty good.
I do not know of any other place that gives you this good of a value for your money, do you?

All Prices I used are based on an average when I looked in the store to buy them individually. This is not an exact average just a guess.


Besides, they have a new sale every day/ week, and at least once a month the stash tabs are on sale so you can wait till then to buy something if you think the item is not worth it to buy at full price.

They are skins, the price can be high. As long as enough people buy them, its fine. If GGG sees a decline in people buying stuff, im sure they will lower the price, but since they arent, they are doing just fine as it is.

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Judaspriester wrote:

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Z3r0Maz3 wrote:

I dont know the facts or their income, but for me it seems that if u have decent player base. Lets say at least 50k and if they each spend about 10EUR per month. Game is earning half million euros per month.

So this should cover about 50 workers with 5000Eur a month and still have a lot to spend on whatever.

Afaik they have a bigger staff, but even if your calculation is right, there are alot of other costs except the wages of the local workers.
The office, the servers (around the world), the hardware for development, software, taxes, fees etc.
I dont want to say you're totally wrong, i just want to say that there might be more stuff that needs to be paid than you are thinking about.

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Z3r0Maz3 wrote:

200 points left. This is maximum one time payment if one does not buy supporter pack.

And here is the problem. With max normal payment one cant even get one armour set.

It seems kinda too high.

Most of the stuff included in the supporter packs is pure bonus if you spend enough money. the 2 small ones offer 50 points less, at the bigger ones you get the points 1:1 compared to buying 20€ packs and alot of stuff on top of this.

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Z3r0Maz3 wrote:

So anyone else thinking that, poe is great but their prices could actually hurt them? Since i think a lot people completely refuse shopping if they see prices too high.

The prices are high, yes, but im fine with them, since most of it is cosmetics. Even the stash tabs are optional. It would be less comfortable, but it is possible to play without them.

Besides that, keep in mind that there are next to zero consumables in the shop. You can use all the stuff you buy as long as your account exists. This is a big difference compared to alot of other f2p games.

Well... you are missing my points here.

1. I am prolly very wrong. Their income and staff are far greater i think.
Just an example to get some sort of view of things.

2. yes, i know that. that is why i buy supporter packs and that is how they should invite you to pay more. They are great but other prices seem pretty heavy for me.

3. Im not trying to say that GGG is unfair to its players or they are too greedy etc. only thing they are pushing on player is stash tabs and i cant complain about those prices. Those are fairly practical. Im just thinking that i would actually spend more on cosmetics if they were cheaper.

Since atm im feeling like blowing 40Eur for one cosmetic item in mainly solo game is too much.

(Rounded numbers inc)
So atm. if i pay 18Eur. (200points) I get pretty much nothing for it.
So i must pay 36Eur. To get new set, that i possibly will wear for some time and then get bored. From leftover points: something very small from shop like treasure. Seems too much lol.

However if i would get 2 sets and some other random items for 36Eur i would possibly spend more in a long run and not feel quilt because of wasting money.


However i see from your profile that you dont have much spending problems.
:D

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Z3r0Maz3 wrote:

POE skin prices... too high?

Yes. They should call it mAcrotransactions.

Some countries get effed over but this is true with everything else too. Those countries are not the targets.

i think it might be a lil high for a lot of players. then again for me it's alright only game i can keep playing for life :P other games i play maybe 20 hours max then i get bored of it so to me it's totally worth it.

besides loads of players who never buy points/donate so doesn't really matter.
they make enough money i'm sure mean how can they not it's a great game.

the mtx can also be used on multiple characters so u will never lose them anyways unlike some games.

besides they make the prices don't like it don't buy it i guess xd