My potato pc can't run PoE

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petitcrabe1 wrote:
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Fruz wrote:
I just wanted to point out that GGG has been optiming their engine/tech over the years, and that it has been very noticeable.
Granted, it's far from perfect, but they have been working on it still.


I just wanted to point out that GGG has been optiming their engine at the wrong places. They made it better for high end pcs where its not that important. For anyone who used to play PoE in the past and come back, he will notice his same computer having terrible performance. Its not far from perfect, its done in reverse..

No.
Performances have increased for old setups as well.
I am of course not saying that all setups got significant improvements, there are so many different kind of hardware combinations that it isn't easy to have something that works well for everybody, especially when some are using completely outdated comps.

You only joined in 2016, so you don't really know how it used to be like I guess.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
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Fruz wrote:
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petitcrabe1 wrote:
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Fruz wrote:
I just wanted to point out that GGG has been optiming their engine/tech over the years, and that it has been very noticeable.
Granted, it's far from perfect, but they have been working on it still.


I just wanted to point out that GGG has been optiming their engine at the wrong places. They made it better for high end pcs where its not that important. For anyone who used to play PoE in the past and come back, he will notice his same computer having terrible performance. Its not far from perfect, its done in reverse..

No.
Performances have increased for old setups as well.
I am of course not saying that all setups got significant improvements, there are so many different kind of hardware combinations that it isn't easy to have something that works well for everybody, especially when some are using completely outdated comps.

You only joined in 2016, so you don't really know how it used to be like I guess.


i used to have serious performance issues with an hdd i kinda feel better when i switched to ssd. i was disconnecting before because of teleports took so long and game decided to kick me out :D
i dk if its just ssd but i can feel some performance improvement compared to last 2 leagues.
Trust your mind and strengthen your abilities!
If you cant afford a good computer you shouldnt be wasting times with games. Those are for after you take care of life business IMO not escapism.

If I sound like your "madre"..well I heard it from mine so there you go.
Git R Dun!
Last edited by Aim_Deep#3474 on Jan 9, 2019, 3:17:55 AM
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Aim_Deep wrote:
If you cant afford a good computer you shouldnt be wasting times with games. Those are for after you take care of life business IMO not escapism.

If I sound like your "madre"..well I heard it from mine so there you go.



this is a horrible statement, because there can be so many reasons for not haveing much money to spare for a new pc and a lot of them have nothing to do with neither wanting to work nor earning enough money.

some ppl just cant get better work or even work at all for reasons beyond their control. even when your salary is above average you sometimes simply don have enough to spare for a "good" new pc.

i.e. things can be come very complicated when you have children and/or life in an area where the rent is kinda high.

your statement seems pretty ignorant to me.
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ciel289 wrote:
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Aim_Deep wrote:
If you cant afford a good computer you shouldnt be wasting times with games. Those are for after you take care of life business IMO not escapism.

If I sound like your "madre"..well I heard it from mine so there you go.



this is a horrible statement, because there can be so many reasons for not haveing much money to spare for a new pc and a lot of them have nothing to do with neither wanting to work nor earning enough money.

some ppl just cant get better work or even work at all for reasons beyond their control. even when your salary is above average you sometimes simply don have enough to spare for a "good" new pc.

i.e. things can be come very complicated when you have children and/or life in an area where the rent is kinda high.

your statement seems pretty ignorant to me.

I'm sure it does.
Git R Dun!
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JuanCruzmx wrote:
I waanna play PoE but I can because the game is pretty bad on the optimiza, I wanna play it but no GGG say chinga tu madre I never do nothing to the game optimize it


Optimize? so it can run on nokia phones? I mean wouldn't the "Logical Solution" be to Upgrade and Buy a Newer PC? I mean you cant expect GGG to make their game run on windows XP systems considering even Microsoft themselves do not support it anymore..

Yet 99% of threads like this turns out that's exactly what the person complaining about is wanting the game to be "Optimized Better" so it runs on such systems.. Seems awful ass backwards to me..

Especially today when you can actually buy a really nice pre-made gaming PC at places like Bestbuy $700-900 bucks can put you in a really nice system that would run this game pretty well. But i mean i just dont get how people can expect to play games on systems that just can not do it.. Then complain its the program developers fault... Does anyone ever take responsibility for anything anymore?




And before you even try... IF you can't Afford it? You dont need it.. Simple as that. If you want it bad enough you'll get it. You'll work harder or do whatever it takes simple as that. If you cant afford a good gaming PC then that says you dont need one to start with.. you need a better job or better management with your funds you do have. Theres way too many ways to go out and make an honest dollar to bitch and moan about what you dont have or can not afford.. thats why you can't afford it complaining dont pay the bills..
There is a fine line between Consideration and Hesitation.
The former is Wisdom, the latter is Fear.
Last edited by Demonoz#1375 on Jan 9, 2019, 5:05:54 AM
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Demonoz wrote:
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JuanCruzmx wrote:
I waanna play PoE but I can because the game is pretty bad on the optimiza, I wanna play it but no GGG say chinga tu madre I never do nothing to the game optimize it


Optimize? so it can run on nokia phones? I mean wouldn't the "Logical Solution" be to Upgrade and Buy a Newer PC? I mean you cant expect GGG to make their game run on windows XP systems considering even Microsoft themselves do not support it anymore..

Yet 99% of threads like this turns out that's exactly what the person complaining about is wanting the game to be "Optimized Better" so it runs on such systems.. Seems awful ass backwards to me..

Especially today when you can actually buy a really nice pre-made gaming PC at places like Bestbuy $700-900 bucks can put you in a really nice system that would run this game pretty well. But i mean i just dont get how people can expect to play games on systems that just can not do it.. Then complain its the program developers fault... Does anyone ever take responsibility for anything anymore?

I fully agree with you if this is a case where someone had a shitty PC, got a game that was too much for the PC to handle in the first place, and then complained that the game was "not optimised". This is backwards indeed. I dunno if this is the case for the OP.

However, while I cannot (and don't want to) speak for the OP, my personal situation with PoE used to be that I was able to run it at a halfways acceptable performance initially and there were even some improvements, but eventually those were canceled out by new content and upgrades.

As a result, the situation changed from "hey, I can totally run this game although it's not perfect" to "dang, it doesn't really work out any more".

This is not normal for most PC games, I think - you mostly have certain minimum system specs, and those don't usually change all that much. Of course, PoE is a bit different from other games because it evolves constantly, so system specs change as well.

In light of this, I think it's kinda legitimate for users with low-end systems to express regret that the game they might have been able to play no longer runs acceptably and that upgraded graphics and load-intense mechanics ultimately took precedence over performance optimisations and further options to increase low-end performance (such as turning off shadows for DX11 or tuning down particle effects).

Obviously, it's equally legitimate to welcome this course of action chosen by GGG. ;)

And while I basically agree with you that getting a decent PC is easy these days and that you cannot expect to afford everything, there may be more factors to that decision. For example, if PoE is literally the only software that your PC cannot quite handle any more, I think it's quite understandable if you're reluctant to fork out a few hundred bucks, and that you might think something along the lines of "Do I really need to buy a new PC just for this game? Sheesh, can't GGG simply allow me to turn off shadows or other players' skill effects for party play instead?".

Frankly, had my old PC not broken, and had I not needed a new PC for work anyway, I would simply have quit playing PoE because while it is a great hobby, I do have other priorities in life and more important things to throw my money at, even if I can technically afford a new PC a dozen times over. I would have been sad, of course, and I would have lamented that they couldn't (or - more likely - didn't want to) put more work into keeping the game accessible for low-end PCs. It's not always about being able to afford something - sometimes it's about being willing to afford something if you think that it wouldn't have to be necessary if only the other side did something on their end which they are perfectly capable of doing. They may have other priorities, though, and you may like these or not, and express your opinion accordingly in the forums.

Again, I don't know the OP's situation and don't want to speak for him. I just wanna try and shed some light on where performance complaints may come from in general.

Although the problem no longer persists for me, I would have welcomed more focus on keeping low-end PCs on board, too. Seems like a legitimate wish and opinion to me and no reason to get mad. After all, GGG is free to do what they want either way, no harm is caused to anyone, and nobody has to agree with that opinion. If nobody ever mentions it, though, GGG cannot even consider it.
Last edited by SamothD#6123 on Jan 9, 2019, 6:07:38 AM
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Demonoz wrote:
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JuanCruzmx wrote:
I waanna play PoE but I can because the game is pretty bad on the optimiza, I wanna play it but no GGG say chinga tu madre I never do nothing to the game optimize it


Optimize? so it can run on nokia phones? I mean wouldn't the "Logical Solution" be to Upgrade and Buy a Newer PC? I mean you cant expect GGG to make their game run on windows XP systems considering even Microsoft themselves do not support it anymore..

Yet 99% of threads like this turns out that's exactly what the person complaining about is wanting the game to be "Optimized Better" so it runs on such systems.. Seems awful ass backwards to me..

Especially today when you can actually buy a really nice pre-made gaming PC at places like Bestbuy $700-900 bucks can put you in a really nice system that would run this game pretty well. But i mean i just dont get how people can expect to play games on systems that just can not do it.. Then complain its the program developers fault... Does anyone ever take responsibility for anything anymore?




And before you even try... IF you can't Afford it? You dont need it.. Simple as that. If you want it bad enough you'll get it. You'll work harder or do whatever it takes simple as that. If you cant afford a good gaming PC then that says you dont need one to start with.. you need a better job or better management with your funds you do have. Theres way too many ways to go out and make an honest dollar to bitch and moan about what you dont have or can not afford.. thats why you can't afford it complaining dont pay the bills..



same ignorance as Aim_Deep...

i´m at no point defending the op´d request to optimize poe for low or rather older pc´s,but saying "just safe up/earn more money its so easy" is dumb and only shows what a life you have lived so far.

you will never see me complain about pc requirements for a game,because i know what setup i´m using and why i´m using it.
telling ppl what they should do and how they spent their time when you dont know anything about them and their situaiton.

do you really believe someone like a mother ,who has to take care of 2 kids on her own, can simply earn more money (working "harder" or getting a better paid job) or save up 700-900 $/€ for a new pc?

and if she cant do that you are really going to tell her "o than you shouldnt play a game for an hour or two to relax" after work/on weekends ,seriously....
I think much confusion would have disappeared if they did this under Recommended specs: higher than the most demanding games out there.
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ciel289 wrote:


do you really believe someone like a mother ,who has to take care of 2 kids on her own, can simply earn more money (working "harder" or getting a better paid job) or save up 700-900 $/€ for a new pc?

and if she cant do that you are really going to tell her "o than you shouldnt play a game for an hour or two to relax" after work/on weekends ,seriously....


Who cares? literally nobody cares about that situation.
either you can or you cant afford a pc thats it.
we are here to escape from real world not to read more real problems..
back to topic.
poe is pretty well optimised tbh. if you cant play it maybe you should not in the first place..
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