Temporal chains and 75% limitation question

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Mark_GGG wrote:

Yes, that value is capped at 75% to prevent bugs.

Thanks for the answer.
Not sure what bugs may be caused by this...?
But my unique build idea is dead.

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biyte wrote:

high level enhance (and of course quality) made the base effect very high, the increased curse effect stuff filled out the rest. You also used other stuff like chill for extra slow I think

Enhance doesn't affect the expiration of other effects, it just makes you slower.

Gathering everything I could find, including 23q Curse on Hit and even using a perfectly rolled Delve drop-only mod on shields, that is not even listed for shields on poedb, very barely puts it at 76%, and that is only if the reduction to curse effect from the gem is not local and thus multiplicative. Also, this includes socketing in Dialla's Malefaction, so it doesn't work with Shackles of the Wretched. Is there another way to curse yourself?

Putting aside that you can't make effects on yourself last forever, which would likely not be a good idea in the first place (to allow this, I mean), and that I don't know of a way how you could do it, I'm very interested in curses. They're one of my favourite game mechanics. So if you know a way to push curse effect further, I'd like to know.

with might on the meek jewel on the up-left side of the tree near the curse nodes you can push another 5% to curse effect.
also there is coward legacy belt, that has "50% increased effect on you".
with both it was possible to reach abousrd effect of course on you.
if you want further explanations, let me know.
(i could reach 2600% increase time on yourself)

I didn't know about that, though I also didn't think about it because most builds that self curse temp chains do it for Headhunter.

With this, I reach 94%, which is 1667% more duration (not including Dialla's Malefaction which would put it at 98% / 5000% more).

Oh, and btw 100% could lead to division by zero, just to mention how it could cause bugs if it wasn't limited.

Also, what were you intending on doing with this near endless duration?

The 75% is to prevent cheese.

Mandatory references:


Thanks Ghudda.

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Beimat wrote:

The 75% is to prevent cheese.

Mandatory references:

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQvyZNoKD84

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8OrZuyktUY

Thanks Ghudda.

temp chains have 2 parts, what you talking about was fixed in patch 2.1

read my first comment again:

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than they lunched a fix to it:

"A cap of 75% now applies to the action speed reduction caused by Temporal Chains and to the effects of Enfeeble."

(as seen here: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1514557)

but Temporal chain have another mechanic:

"Other effects on Cursed enemies expire 40% slower".

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im talking about the second (undocumented nerfed part)

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DER_PSYCHOPATH wrote:

I didn't know about that, though I also didn't think about it because most builds that self curse temp chains do it for Headhunter.

With this, I reach 94%, which is 1667% more duration (not including Dialla's Malefaction which would put it at 98% / 5000% more).

Oh, and btw 100% could lead to division by zero, just to mention how it could cause bugs if it wasn't limited.

Also, what were you intending on doing with this near endless duration?

not sure about your math, got to 96.2% slower...

but anyway thats not important anymore

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The_x_ile wrote:

Not sure what bugs may be caused by this...?

Making things last forever maybe?

You get permanent buffs/debuffs.

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Karvarousku wrote:

You get permanent buffs/debuffs.

this is totaly contrary to what rory just said in this thred.
have you tested this now?
is that your stream?