Aspect of carnage just doesn't fit

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AcrylicHercules wrote:

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ZACHWILDCAT wrote:

What I wrote is about the normal size for a paragraph ...

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Aside from the fact that your 270+ words are upwards of twice the size of a typical English paragraph, word count isn't a good way of determining when to use paragraphs.

A paragraph should be determined by the cohesion of its sentences, and your sentences aren't very cohesive, as others have pointed out.

If you expect a decently coherent discussion, it would behoove you to be a bit more coherent with your own words.

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Or don't. If you're just wanting to rant, that's cool too.

Coming from someone who has stated if you have nothing to offer to the discussion then don't say anything. Another person who wants to just comment for the sake of commenting.

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Draegnarrr wrote:

They will tweak zerker, I suspect there is some usual developer obstinance in the office where whoever was responible for the changes is sure they are right and won't admit they are wrong until enough time has passed and the situation has been made obvious enough.

They could be right anyway but the players certainly don't like it, which is the same thing as being wrong IMO I really don't want to use it as it currently is, just too many drawbacks.

Savage hit node was rendered worthless when they reworked VP 100% leech is about 99.5% more than is necessary, attack/mana leech is fine but your a zerker duelist really isn't far off. Then you've got the warcry node which is good, except it gives you rage which makes you degen again lol.

Its just a mess

Would you say looking a poe ninja would be an objective way to see if a certain class is balanced properly? Zerker is at the bottom of the list in both delve, and HC delve. Zerker as from what I glanced at is the same build type, totems.

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ZACHWILDCAT wrote:

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AcrylicHercules wrote:

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ZACHWILDCAT wrote:

What I wrote is about the normal size for a paragraph ...

<pedantry>

Aside from the fact that your 270+ words are upwards of twice the size of a typical English paragraph, word count isn't a good way of determining when to use paragraphs.

A paragraph should be determined by the cohesion of its sentences, and your sentences aren't very cohesive, as others have pointed out.

If you expect a decently coherent discussion, it would behoove you to be a bit more coherent with your own words.

</pedantry>

Or don't. If you're just wanting to rant, that's cool too.

Coming from someone who has stated if you have nothing to offer to the discussion then don't say anything. Another person who wants to just comment for the sake of commenting.

I'll comment whenever I feel like it, thanks. You don't own this forum, or this thread.

If you didn't find anything valuable in my contribution, then that's your loss. I don't particularly care if you improve yourself or continue babbling. You be you.

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AcrylicHercules wrote:

I'll comment whenever I feel like it, thanks. You don't own this forum, or this thread.

If you didn't find anything valuable in my contribution, then that's your loss. I don't particularly care if you improve yourself or continue babbling. You be you.

Even though you have now wasted your time to comment twice. As a famed poster once said, you be you. lol

the problem with berserker is that 10% increased damage taken gets you one shotted if you put map mods on top. Not to say the annoying fucking degen and rage stacks that drop in no time.

Slayer has good damage too and the whole overleech branch is so much better than what berserker offers imo.

They simply killed zerker when they killed vaal pact.

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IIPheXII wrote:

the problem with berserker is that 10% increased damage taken gets you one shotted if you put map mods on top. Not to say the annoying fucking degen and rage stacks that drop in no time.

Slayer has good damage too and the whole overleech branch is so much better than what berserker offers imo.

They simply killed zerker when they killed vaal pact.

This is what I'm scared of while getting my zerker ready. I thought it's going to be hard to try and sustain but I'm still going to try. Call me crazy but maybe instead of degen, it could be regen.

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IIPheXII wrote:

the problem with berserker is that 10% increased damage taken gets you one shotted if you put map mods on top. Not to say the annoying fucking degen and rage stacks that drop in no time.

Slayer has good damage too and the whole overleech branch is so much better than what berserker offers imo.

They simply killed zerker when they killed vaal pact.

10% increased damage taken is not that much and of course you can build around it like always. It's even less relative to some items released recently.
They killed Zerker with their stupid identity thing. He is probably the only class that is actually fitting. The game needs more downsides. Else you just compare raw dps instead of circumstances and environments, actually building a build. They tried to fix this by giving some classes gem specific nodes, which in the long term sucks ass and might make the tree kinda pointless. Like Elementalist vs Inquisitor (Pre Elementalist patch). Even after the Zerker nerf he would've been fine as a sorta spell leech general caster. But now others are strictly better.

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This is what I'm scared of while getting my zerker ready. I thought it's going to be hard to try and sustain but I'm still going to try. Call me crazy but maybe instead of degen, it could be regen.

This would actually be fun. "Regen 100% (or any other number of damage taken over the next 20 (or any other number) seconds"

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IIPheXII wrote:

the problem with berserker is that 10% increased damage taken gets you one shotted if you put map mods on top. Not to say the annoying fucking degen and rage stacks that drop in no time.

Slayer has good damage too and the whole overleech branch is so much better than what berserker offers imo.

They simply killed zerker when they killed vaal pact.

10% increase isn't all that much compared to Abyssus for example. It's directly countered by Fortify. Or to put it in perspective of resists, at 75% resists you take 25% damage. Multiply by 1.1 to get 27.5% damage, or effectively just losing 2.5% resists. This is compared with 5% reduced max resists that people might groan about running but can still do in a lot of cases. Yes, paired with other map mods it does make things more dangerous, but I'd argue it's not significantly so.

They killed Zerker both with Vaal Pact and also with Slayer and Champion. Almost every time I've looked at doing something with Zerker I've found Slayer or Champ can do it better. Slayer (and Scion Slayer) does leech better through full life leech and Champ does the "get damaged to gain a buff" better through Adrenaline since Adrenaline lasts much longer and is more reliable to get going. Champ also does Warcry better directly through Taunt instead, aside from maybe a few cute interactions with The Eternal Apple or certain other uniques. And I say "cute interactions" because they likely aren't worth it.

As to the original topic, Aspect of Carnage feels like it doesn't fit but it's not a huge deal. I agree it could use a rework but that node certainly isn't the worst one for Zerker.

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Jackalope_Gaming wrote:

As to the original topic, Aspect of Carnage feels like it doesn't fit but it's not a huge deal. I agree it could use a rework but that node certainly isn't the worst one for Zerker.

That node is the last thing that keeps Zerker breathing.

I played one when they first introduced the changes, I actually liked Rage as a mechanic (I spent like 4 skillpoints into pure regen I wouldn't have taken anyways, think it was combat stamina and the .8% thing in marauder start).

Building up and maintaining Rage felt somewhat satisfying.
I like buffs like this (though it could have been stronger)

But besides the global 40% more and the free attack leech (mana probably even more important than life), he's just doesn't have much to offer at the moment.
He has downsides, everybody else doesn't.

Berserker has been trash tier since three leagues ago? From around the time they introduced rage on his Ascendancy. I've been waiting for Berserker changes, but nothing has happened so far. I was shocked to see that Delve STILL introduced no changes to Berserker.

Yes Berserker builds can still kill uber Elder and clear all the other content in the game, but that's besides the point. The point is that the only thing Berserker excels in when compared to other Ascendancies is gimping yourself. Nothing else.