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Phaeded wrote:

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Not really but I felt like being mean about it. I'm not sure why. :P


there has always been inequality between streamers getting fed donations from viewers, and 'average joe' players who play the game in a 'fair' way. sulphite makes this particularly egregious because it's a constant in-your-face farm that they get to bypass rather than one-time gifts like a 6L shavs
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adghar wrote:
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Phaeded wrote:

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Not really but I felt like being mean about it. I'm not sure why. :P


there has always been inequality between streamers getting fed donations from viewers, and 'average joe' players who play the game in a 'fair' way. sulphite makes this particularly egregious because it's a constant in-your-face farm that they get to bypass rather than one-time gifts like a 6L shavs

Yep. Lame. Tainted accomplishment. But GGG isn't going to do anything about it so I should stop bitching about it everywhere I guess.
POE Serenity Prayer: GGG, grant me the serenity to accept the RNG I cannot change,
the courage to challenge any unbalanced content, and the wisdom to avoid the forums.
Mad: "Oh, it's simple and if you insist... I just think you're a dick. That's all."
QFT: 4TRY4C&4NO
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Phaeded wrote:
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adghar wrote:
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Phaeded wrote:

Spoiler
Not really but I felt like being mean about it. I'm not sure why. :P


there has always been inequality between streamers getting fed donations from viewers, and 'average joe' players who play the game in a 'fair' way. sulphite makes this particularly egregious because it's a constant in-your-face farm that they get to bypass rather than one-time gifts like a 6L shavs

Yep. Lame. Tainted accomplishment. But GGG isn't going to do anything about it so I should stop bitching about it everywhere I guess.


Join SSF? Farm your own sulphite and climb the ladders.

Peace,

-Boem-
Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
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Boem wrote:
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Phaeded wrote:
Yep. Lame. Tainted accomplishment. But GGG isn't going to do anything about it so I should stop bitching about it everywhere I guess.


Join SSF? Farm your own sulphite and climb the ladders.

Peace,

-Boem-

Yeah, I debunked that in another thread. That's a lame argument. Wanting to compete fairly on the solo ladder without having to be gimped further by playing SSF is not an unreasonable desire. If those guys want to cheese their sulphite from other players that's fine. Let them get rank on the group ladder. The solo ladder should represent solo effort, period.
POE Serenity Prayer: GGG, grant me the serenity to accept the RNG I cannot change,
the courage to challenge any unbalanced content, and the wisdom to avoid the forums.
Mad: "Oh, it's simple and if you insist... I just think you're a dick. That's all."
QFT: 4TRY4C&4NO
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Phaeded wrote:
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Boem wrote:
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Phaeded wrote:
Yep. Lame. Tainted accomplishment. But GGG isn't going to do anything about it so I should stop bitching about it everywhere I guess.


Join SSF? Farm your own sulphite and climb the ladders.

Peace,

-Boem-

Yeah, I debunked that in another thread. That's a lame argument. Wanting to compete fairly on the solo ladder without having to be gimped further by playing SSF is not an unreasonable desire. If those guys want to cheese their sulphite from other players that's fine. Let them get rank on the group ladder. The solo ladder should represent solo effort, period.


It's not debunked and it's not lame.

It's what your asking for and thinking the normal league would not have group competition going on was a naieve assumption on your part?

Let's put it like this, your in a trade league and find some currency. You buy move speed gear to farm sulphite fast.

Is that a solo effort? You didn't find that gear yourself. It increases your delve competence compared to people that lack that gear or didn't drop some currency.
A working economy is a "group effort" and your utilizing it already when you buy stuff to progress more efficiently.

Teams just take it a step further since they wanna be competitive.

Peace,

-Boem-
Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
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Boem wrote:
It's not debunked and it's not lame.

It's what your asking for and thinking the normal league would not have group competition going on was a naieve assumption on your part?

Let's put it like this, your in a trade league and find some currency. You buy move speed gear to farm sulphite fast.

Is that a solo effort? You didn't find that gear yourself. It increases your delve competence compared to people that lack that gear or didn't drop some currency.
A working economy is a "group effort" and your utilizing it already when you buy stuff to progress more efficiently.

Teams just take it a step further since they wanna be competitive.

Peace,

-Boem-

You win. Not worth debating for me any more. I disagree with you strongly. Playing pure SSF and wanting the SOLO delve ladder to be SOLO do not have to be mutually exclusive. You can feel the opposite. It's fine with me. I just don't agree.

BTW, this:

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Boem wrote:
Teams just take it a step further since they wanna be competitive.

Is a contradictory statement IMO. "Teams" on the solo ladder. Yeah, makes sense. Can't argue with your logic, so I'm not going to try any more.
POE Serenity Prayer: GGG, grant me the serenity to accept the RNG I cannot change,
the courage to challenge any unbalanced content, and the wisdom to avoid the forums.
Mad: "Oh, it's simple and if you insist... I just think you're a dick. That's all."
QFT: 4TRY4C&4NO
Last edited by Phaeded#4782 on Sep 5, 2018, 8:34:30 PM
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Phaeded wrote:

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Boem wrote:
Teams just take it a step further since they wanna be competitive.

Is a contradictory statement IMO. "Teams" on the solo ladder. Yeah, makes sense. Can't argue with your logic, so I'm not going to try any more.


Now i expect a link to the ladder of first level 100 in a trade league that includes the entire team composition, thank you very much.

Replace solo delve with lvl 100
Replace sulphite with maps/sextants/gear

Hiy look, it's just the same stuff in a competitive trade environment.

And yeah they "solo" maps to level 100, just like they "solo" delves.

Peace,

-Boem-
Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
Solo only mean that they are alone while they progress inside the mine. Wich makes a big difference then when you would party up. It has nothing do to with anything outside of it, never has. You are just not understanding what it means.
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Boem wrote:
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Phaeded wrote:

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Boem wrote:
Teams just take it a step further since they wanna be competitive.

Is a contradictory statement IMO. "Teams" on the solo ladder. Yeah, makes sense. Can't argue with your logic, so I'm not going to try any more.


Now i expect a link to the ladder of first level 100 in a trade league that includes the entire team composition, thank you very much.

Replace solo delve with lvl 100
Replace sulphite with maps/sextants/gear

Hiy look, it's just the same stuff in a competitive trade environment.

And yeah they "solo" maps to level 100, just like they "solo" delves.

Peace,

-Boem-

You are right about all of the other "team" activities. That's why I was hoping this would be different. But w/e. We're not going to get anywhere. You think "solo" means team. I don't.
POE Serenity Prayer: GGG, grant me the serenity to accept the RNG I cannot change,
the courage to challenge any unbalanced content, and the wisdom to avoid the forums.
Mad: "Oh, it's simple and if you insist... I just think you're a dick. That's all."
QFT: 4TRY4C&4NO

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