Should Delve Stay?

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nadakuu wrote:

in its current state, it needs to be shelved.
Poorly tested, poorly designed.

There needs to be less grind to access the content.
There should be a rework of the flare system to be thrown quicker, and provide more light. Or just change it to an upgradeable latern and be done with micromanaging yet another currency.

Secret walls , need to be better indicated to know where to use dynamite.

if they can rework the inherent flaws that anyone who tested for 1 hour could of seen, then it may work well being integrated.

content designed for people who play 12 hours a day and have others feeding them to get somewhere is poor content.

You don't appear to have a character in a Delve league - have you actually played the content?

I'd say yes, with a bit of polishing and bug fixes it would be a great addition! Hopefully it'll go core.
BUT they'll for sure tone it down somehow if and when it does, and how GGG will do that gets me worried...

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Asmosis wrote:

Neither of the two previous leagues have stayed. Incursion will return in 3 months, but in what form we dont know yet. Legacy league (the most popular league to date) was pulled entirely as being "too complex".

Was integrating Legacy ever even on the table? I seem to recall it was known to be a one-time thing from the very beginning. GGG doesn't want to make access to past league uniques too easy. I also think the popularity of the league was due to the access to those uniques and not because the mechanics were particularly interesting.

Legacy's popularity had nothing to do with the Reliquaries and everything to do with how popular Flashback is at the end of the last two leagues. Having access to three mechanics of your choice was amazing, despite some people not liking the "micro(haha)management" of the stones.

I think Delve stays - but with a delay. People continually forget that the League is Beta 1.0 for mechanics. Flares, dynamite and darkness delving outside the Crawler needs serious love.

Also I believe the whole mechanic will be fleshed out EVEN FURTHER and people will get their wish for an alternative end game/levelling. Maybe. It seems logical, but logic and common sense sometimes don't apply around here.

Edit P.S. And Legacy never made it to base game because there would potentially be greater retention in Standard with that mechanic and therefore less attention on Leagues, which is the bread (literally money) and butter of this game.

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nadakuu wrote:

in its current state, it needs to be shelved.
Poorly tested, poorly designed.

This.
GGG better take it back to the workshop and do the best they can to make it right.
But then, it should stay and shall bring new glorry up on PoE...

So far I want to stay, its fun, fast and add smalls goals beside the map system.

Stay. Even in its current form it's still a great addition.

Absolutely. Best league since breach, there is so much to do unlike the last league. The mechanics are engaging and the danger aspect is always there so it s not braindead shit like mapping. I hope ggg steps away from silly braindead leagues like incursion and goes further with engaging leagues like this. Of course there is room for improvement, flares are utter shit, but knowing that it s being worked on I can slide that off.

Delve should be merged into Standard when the current league ends. Lots to discover - lots to learn - lots of loot and exp gained. The mechanics are simple, yet can be dangerous. Especially for the HC players. The short bursts of running through the mine is a refreshing vacation away from slogging through the story and eventually grinding the maps.

Yes, there are some improvements in the works which should help improve an already good experience. I'm liking this waaaaayyy better than Bestiary.

And yes, I would like to see Legacy merged into Standard. Or at least brought back as one of the four leagues planned yearly. Legacy has been the most fun out of all the leagues I've played in over the last 4 years.

Should be a way to upgrade Niko's pick axe to get more sulfite per pile.