"... to let spell block be something all characters can have access to, ..."

block was already pigeonholed, now its pigeonholed even more unless they add a lot of block mods onto everything

meanwhile acro+phase still is extremely cheap way to get similar functionality and dodge chance is everywhere nowadays

so the whole point of this decision for block was to make more people use dodge?


Really GGG!?

Looks like the eagles are really coming....

250% nerf for stone of lazwhar
260-390% nerf for Rathpith

GGG what you been smoking?

They pretty much used the old % values applied to a character using a 30% block shield without any block investment whatsoever and made them flat, or ?

Seems kind of silly really, because those players were not using those block items in the first place for a very easy reason : they were not worth taking.
Now they are not worth taking for them ( obviously still ), but not really worth taking for anybody else either.
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It only makes them "better" for DW and 2H, which don't need it because the whole point of DW and 2H is to trade survivability for damage in the first place !! ( in an ideally "balanced" game of course ).


The worse part is having different values for "legacy" items. They could not leave "full legacy" items so instead they slightly make the numbers higher for old items ? like WTF ? It only means that you already know that this change is terrible and people are going to complain, well ... no shit !?


Like seriously, those values need to be buffed by like ... 1.5 at least imho.
Spell block was not even the meta or anything ...

Honestly the values the items should have at least:

20-30% spell block for rathpith
25% for stone of lazwhar

This is still a nerf

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MasterTBC wrote:

20-30% spell block for rathpith
25% for stone of lazwhar
This is still a nerf

The fact that you say that makes me think you haven't actually read the patch notes. They didn't only change the numbers, they also changed what the stat actually does. In current patch (before Delve), those items grant x% of attack block is applied to spell block chance. That means that if you take a naked character, and stick a Rathpith Globe and a Stone of Lazhwar on it, you end up with about 25% chance to block spells. This is how the game currently works and has always worked. If they went with the numbers you just gave, it would pretty much be a massive buff, because you could slap 50 to 55% spell block on any character by giving up shield and amulet slot, which it cannot currently do. You'd need +25% chance to block from other sources (passive tree, other item slots sacrificed) to get comparable results.

That said, the numbers that were actually given do look like they'll nerf existing builds.

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MasterTBC wrote:

Honestly the values the items should have at least:

20-30% spell block for rathpith
25% for stone of lazwhar

This is still a nerf

Well, this starts being values that become attractive for anybody, like ... 25% spell block chance seems to look pretty strong, without needing to invest anything to be honest.
Take the witch cluster ( +7% spell block for 3 points ) and those 2 items in the versions that you are proposing and ... 52% spell block for those 2 slots, this might be a bit too strong ?

So it's not that "easy" of a change to go from %B -> %SB conversion to flat values ... but still, the current outcome have too low values imho.

I could see 20% for Stone le Lazwhar tho, not sure.

Well right now these items give max spell block when you have max block and after nerf they give less than 30% lol

Introduces chaos damage bullet hell in incursions.

Reduces spell block, the most effective defence aside from Run!

Well played GGG, well played.

I mean, Incursion will be an afterthought in base game anyway, but those high tier incursions will be even more fun now.

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MasterTBC wrote:

250% nerf for stone of lazwhar
260-390% nerf for Rathpith

GGG what you been smoking?

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MasterTBC wrote:

Well right now these items give max spell block when you have max block and after nerf they give less than 30% lol

Okay so I don't know what you have been on, but there is seriously something wrong with your numbers ...

Stone of Lazhwar went from 37.5% ( except using items to go over the cap ) to 15%.
That's a 60% nerf, not 70% ( and it required quite some investment to get to 75% normal block chance in the first place ).
The other numbers .... no clue.