The joys of playing a Meta Build, and how badly Incursion can screw you without one

The Incursion Timer is a less-fair version of a Zana Mission timer.
you need to kill things, fast. very, very fast. one-shot whole packs if you can.

Arc Traps allow me to do that. I kill Architects, open doors, kill all monsters in the room for the achievement, get the temple layout I want.

But what about a normal build? some non-Mathil melee without Stat Sticks? some wacky build that doesn't have off-the-charts DPS?
yeah good luck with that, in this league. chances are you'll get a temple with only the entrance room...

This is a fun league no doubt, but it also took the barrier between the have and the have-not, and made it into a giant 50-foot wall.
Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat
Shadow: That was fun
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It gets worse as the game goes on because monsters give less and less time. I'm at the point now where I can be constantly one-shotting packs and the timer just keeps ticking down. It's like, why bother? Just beeline for the architect and pray your temple has a good default route.
If monsters give less time, that will make the 50-foot wall even higher over time.

That's not good.

As much as I enjoy playing an insane-DPS-will-get-nerfed-to-the-ground Arc Trapper, GGG can't assume everyone plays one.
Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat
Shadow: That was fun
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johnKeys wrote:
The Incursion Timer is a less-fair version of a Zana Mission timer.
you need to kill things, fast. very, very fast. one-shot whole packs if you can.

Arc Traps allow me to do that. I kill Architects, open doors, kill all monsters in the room for the achievement, get the temple layout I want.

But what about a normal build? some non-Mathil melee without Stat Sticks? some wacky build that doesn't have off-the-charts DPS?
yeah good luck with that, in this league. chances are you'll get a temple with only the entrance room...

This is a fun league no doubt, but it also took the barrier between the have and the have-not, and made it into a giant 50-foot wall.




I'm ignite flameblast with garbage cast spd and I still manage. Stop complaining.
You meant you are Prolif Flameblast. "cast once, screen dies" type of build.
me too.

The whole point of the thread - if you actually read it - is to imply builds who are not doing that (or just have huge DPS AoE), are having a very hard time with this Incursion mechanic.

It doesn't have to be like that.

While the Timer makes sense thematically - you are in the distant past, and using Alva's and Vaal blood to sustain the Incursion - it can be made better than just a "kill everything or you're fucked".
you already gain time from damaging architects. why not do the same for Rares, for example?
Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat
Shadow: That was fun
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johnKeys wrote:
You meant you are Prolif Flameblast. "cast once, screen dies" type of build.
me too.

The whole point of the thread - if you actually read it - is to imply builds who are not doing that (or just have huge DPS AoE), are having a very hard time with this Incursion mechanic.

It doesn't have to be like that.

While the Timer makes sense thematically - you are in the distant past, and using Alva's and Vaal blood to sustain the Incursion - it can be made better than just a "kill everything or you're fucked".
you already gain time from damaging architects. why not do the same for Rares, for example?





Every build is big AoE at this point. If you're not using multi projectiles or mass AoE, you're playing the game wrong period. It's been this way for years now, why people suddenly forget this is beyond me.
I'm playing flame dash - searing bond totems with a bit of incinerate to trigger EO later on, so far there's no chance for a full stay in the temple but it's possible to beeline to the passage you aim for, kill the architect along the way and open it if the key drops. I suppose it's fine, if I was playing a normal build I'd have good AoE and take full benefit from incursions but this doesn't mean I can't upgrade rooms and open a path to the top if I play smart.



About rare monsters, they were a waste of time in breach domains if your build can't kill them really fast too, I suppose it's tradition.
Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs.

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allbusiness wrote:
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johnKeys wrote:
The Incursion Timer is a less-fair version of a Zana Mission timer.
you need to kill things, fast. very, very fast. one-shot whole packs if you can.

Arc Traps allow me to do that. I kill Architects, open doors, kill all monsters in the room for the achievement, get the temple layout I want.

But what about a normal build? some non-Mathil melee without Stat Sticks? some wacky build that doesn't have off-the-charts DPS?
yeah good luck with that, in this league. chances are you'll get a temple with only the entrance room...

This is a fun league no doubt, but it also took the barrier between the have and the have-not, and made it into a giant 50-foot wall.




I'm ignite flameblast with garbage cast spd and I still manage. Stop complaining.
You are literally one-shotting the entire screen...

For the rest of us plebs who are using some clunky slower not-meta build this league is basically hell.
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鬼殺し wrote:
answer, jk: you quit.

funny yknow. I was going over some of our threads from years ago.

...eh, Im not drunk enough to continue that line of thought.


True.
Today I am a meta-playing, trading, spending-my-GGG-bucks-on-stash-tabs P2W a**hole.
I joined the Dark Side, Charan... and I'm probably not going back because it's fun here.
plus we got dinosaurs, and I can shoot lightning from my hands.

But one good thing about being in The Dark Side, is now I finally understand how much of a shit experience being a Self-Found crazy-build-making Jedi has become in present day PoE.
I complained about that a lot over the years, but now I finally see it looking back at the suffering of my former self, with an evil grin.
This League with its current mechanics, symbolizes GGG's "meta or get the fuck out" attitude.
Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat
Shadow: That was fun
Last edited by johnKeys#6083 on Jun 3, 2018, 7:05:18 AM
Meta-shmeta, you know what I'm seeing as a bit of a problem with this league? It's the long term goals, ok, probably closer to mid term than long but still, you had to put in a bit of work to summon rigwald or fight the breachlords and it usually wouldn't happen before getting well into maps, you can already have a shot at the pyramid boss while doing the first few acts.
Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs.

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