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Pibadi wrote:
Just curious, how Chris will be look at the eyes of Tencent CEO after next fiscal period. Becouse after this news, GGG will lose 75%+ money from supporters. We support GGG when it was indie developers who share they game with us, but now? Now this game belong to China big conglomerat, so if we buy anything in the game, it will go to the Tencent bank account.
I don't regret about mine past purchases of support packs, but next, i will NEVER EVAR spend ANY amount of my money to this game. Better to buy another AAA game, than invest my money to this shady China company.
If the users sink the game, then it just becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
I hope you lot are happy with yourselves, because the rest of us certainly won't.
If the game turns subscription model because of this rubbish, I'll willingly shell out the cash just to see it go on, and withdraw my cash if the game begins to suck.
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Rakiii wrote:
Nice PR statement but I would like to know what was the real reason behind selling.
Probably to make sure they don't have to be dependent on the good will of a collection of chicken littles screaming about how the game will die with every update, balance change, or buff/nerf. ethical ssf btw xd
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Pibadi wrote:
Just curious, how Chris will be look at the eyes of Tencent CEO after next fiscal period. Becouse after this news, GGG will lose 75%+ money from supporters. We support GGG when it was indie developers who share they game with us, but now? Now this game belong to China big conglomerat, so if we buy anything in the game, it will go to the Tencent bank account.
I don't regret about mine past purchases of support packs, but next, i will NEVER EVAR spend ANY amount of my money to this game. Better to buy another AAA game, than invest my money to this shady China company.
From what i can see only about 20% of people are reacting in a very negative way about this. they are just more vocal about it. most seem to have a cautious or positive response to the aquisition.
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Posted byAntistes#4850on May 22, 2018, 6:59:46 AM
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Pibadi wrote:
Just curious, how Chris will be look at the eyes of Tencent CEO after next fiscal period. Becouse after this news, GGG will lose 75%+ money from supporters. We support GGG when it was indie developers who share they game with us, but now? Now this game belong to China big conglomerat, so if we buy anything in the game, it will go to the Tencent bank account.
I don't regret about mine past purchases of support packs, but next, i will NEVER EVAR spend ANY amount of my money to this game. Better to buy another AAA game, than invest my money to this shady China company.
From what i can see only about 20% of people are reacting in a very negative way about this. they are just more vocal about it. most seem to have a cautious or positive response to the aquisition.
IMO, most of this lot were already in their minds dissatisfied with the game, negativity being what it is they just chose this as their reason to make a clean break with it. If that's what they want to do, so long and thanks for all the fish, because I'm only interested in seeing where this game will go in the future with more money to fund crazier developments, instead of becoming the same as these knobs screaming about how Tencent is supposedly the same as ISIS.
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Antistes wrote:
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Pibadi wrote:
Just curious, how Chris will be look at the eyes of Tencent CEO after next fiscal period. Becouse after this news, GGG will lose 75%+ money from supporters. We support GGG when it was indie developers who share they game with us, but now? Now this game belong to China big conglomerat, so if we buy anything in the game, it will go to the Tencent bank account.
I don't regret about mine past purchases of support packs, but next, i will NEVER EVAR spend ANY amount of my money to this game. Better to buy another AAA game, than invest my money to this shady China company.
From what i can see only about 20% of people are reacting in a very negative way about this. they are just more vocal about it. most seem to have a cautious or positive response to the aquisition.
It seems like more than just a few players are upset. GGG has never done anything to truly harm the game, so I doubt they didn't have a firm contract saying they keep being in charge. That does not mean player's concerns are unfounded.
With all the feedback and questions asked in this thread, I would love for GGG to do a Q&A post on this issue. Like gather all the questions/concerns from this thread and give a response or answer.
I've already asked a few questions earlier in this thread, and have thought of some more based on player feedback:
-Where does our supporter pack money go to now?... will content still be the main thing?
-Will the money Tencent invested into the game be used for content?
-Alot of players seem to mostly want to buy supporter packs to help GGG as an indie developer(on some level I do too somewhat), was a certain percentage loss of supporter pack buyers calculated when letting tencent invest?
-Do tencent get a say in GGG's employees... can tencent hire for, fire from, or let people lose from GGG?
-Will Tencent get any player/sale(bought supporter packs)/playtime statistics?
-Will we get an Exiles of Pandaria expansion? (just kidding with this one)
Thanks!
TLDR: Please do a Q&A to address player's concerns.
Edit: Added a question above, and wanted to add my thoughts that some players have a really irrational fear for anything chinese.
Edit2: Added another question above.
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Posted bysarannah101#2551on May 22, 2018, 7:16:24 AM
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Well then, this certainly puts the future of PoE at a crossroads, but one I am ultimately ok with. Hopefully this decision means more funds in the coffers to continue providing quality additions to the game etc and not a "waah poe is funding the evil dirty chinamens". I am not worried at all about things at GGGs end, I do believe they will stick to their original philosophy regarding the game and uphold their values to it, but whether they eventually end up with their hands tied is something only the future can hold.
I have bought packs in the past and will continue to do so as long as PoE remains that enjoyable timesink every few months, the value for money PoE offers is actually insane. 60-80$ for a AAA title thatll give maybe 30 hours of gameplay? get that for free on PoE, and then some. I don't really see it as giving money to evil chinese or good guy ggg or w/e, to me it's I give x money for y product and thats as far as I care where the money ends up, I get what I wanted and therefore am happy with my expenditure.
But some food for thought for those proposing a boycott: The electronic devices you use in day to day life likely had some parts manufactured in china, you probably own articles of clothing manufactured in china, you probably play games that have part chinese ownership and you simply don't know about it because of a lack of transparency. I bet you will still continue to use those.
"Patience. A minor form of despair disguised as a virtue." - Ambrose Bierce
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Posted byAkaXero#5127on May 22, 2018, 7:16:54 AM
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sarannah101 wrote:
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Antistes wrote:
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Pibadi wrote:
Just curious, how Chris will be look at the eyes of Tencent CEO after next fiscal period. Becouse after this news, GGG will lose 75%+ money from supporters. We support GGG when it was indie developers who share they game with us, but now? Now this game belong to China big conglomerat, so if we buy anything in the game, it will go to the Tencent bank account.
I don't regret about mine past purchases of support packs, but next, i will NEVER EVAR spend ANY amount of my money to this game. Better to buy another AAA game, than invest my money to this shady China company.
From what i can see only about 20% of people are reacting in a very negative way about this. they are just more vocal about it. most seem to have a cautious or positive response to the aquisition.
It seems like more than just a few players are upset. GGG has never done anything to truly harm the game, so I doubt they didn't have a firm contract saying they keep being in charge. That does not mean player's concerns are unfounded.
With all the feedback and questions asked in this thread, I would love for GGG to do a Q&A post on this issue. Like gather all the questions/concerns from this thread and give a response or answer.
I've already asked a few questions earlier in this thread, and have thought of some more based on player feedback:
-Where does our supporter pack money go to now?... will content still be the main thing?
-Will the money Tencent invested into the game be used for content?
-Alot of players seem to mostly want to buy supporter packs to help GGG as an indie developer(on some level I do too somewhat), was a certain percentage loss of supporter pack buyers calculated when letting tencent invest?
-Will we get an Exiles of Pandaria expansion? (just kidding with this one)
Thanks!
TLDR: Please do a Q&A to address player's concerns.
Here's a harder question: will said Q&A do *anything* to alleviate the so-called concerns of several hardliners who don't understand how business models work, and only want to fight the power by not giving the scary china men their cash? I've seen any number of prophets calling for Israel to go back to their tents because of this. I believe it was already made clear from the start that your money still goes majorly to GGG to run their business. Tencent only gets part of the profits, they won't be doling out small fragments and expect GGG to work miracles with almost no money. Then you have these other people talking about so-called "dignity" and dragging politics into a video game, which I hate above all without exceptions. I do believe GGG will be better off washing their hands off such persons, because if you bought supporter packs only "for the sake of supporting the company" even if you disagreed with their prices, you probably supported them for the wrong reasons.
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AkaXero wrote:
Well then, this certainly puts the future of PoE at a crossroads, but one I am ultimately ok with. Hopefully this decision means more funds in the coffers to continue providing quality additions to the game etc and not a "waah poe is funding the evil dirty chinamens". I am not worried at all about things at GGGs end, I do believe they will stick to their original philosophy regarding the game and uphold their values to it, but whether they eventually end up with their hands tied is something only the future can hold.
I have bought packs in the past and will continue to do so as long as PoE remains that enjoyable timesink every few months, the value for money PoE offers is actually insane. 60-80$ for a AAA title thatll give maybe 30 hours of gameplay? get that for free on PoE, and then some. I don't really see it as giving money to evil chinese or good guy ggg or w/e, to me it's I give x money for y product and thats as far as I care where the money ends up, I get what I wanted and therefore am happy with my expenditure.
But some food for thought for those proposing a boycott: The electronic devices you use in day to day life likely had some parts manufactured in china, you probably own articles of clothing manufactured in china, you probably play games that have part chinese ownership and you simply don't know about it because of a lack of transparency. I bet you will still continue to use those.
well said my friend, glad to see some of us have retained their common sense at least.
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sarannah101 wrote:
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Antistes wrote:
From what i can see only about 20% of people are reacting in a very negative way about this. they are just more vocal about it. most seem to have a cautious or positive response to the aquisition.
It seems like more than just a few players are upset. GGG has never done anything to truly harm the game, so I doubt they didn't have a firm contract saying they keep being in charge. That does not mean player's concerns are unfounded.
With all the feedback and questions asked in this thread, I would love for GGG to do a Q&A post on this issue. Like gather all the questions/concerns from this thread and give a response or answer.
I've already asked a few questions earlier in this thread, and have thought of some more based on player feedback:
-Where does our supporter pack money go to now?... will content still be the main thing?
-Will the money Tencent invested into the game be used for content?
-Alot of players seem to mostly want to buy supporter packs to help GGG as an indie developer(on some level I do too somewhat), was a certain percentage loss of supporter pack buyers calculated when letting tencent invest?
-Will we get an Exiles of Pandaria expansion? (just kidding with this one)
Thanks!
TLDR: Please do a Q&A to address player's concerns.
Here's a harder question: will said Q&A do *anything* to alleviate the so-called concerns of several hardliners who don't understand how business models work, and only want to fight the power by not giving the scary china men their cash? I've seen any number of prophets calling for Israel to go back to their tents because of this. I believe it was already made clear from the start that your money still goes majorly to GGG to run their business. Tencent only gets part of the profits, they won't be doling out small fragments and expect GGG to work miracles with almost no money. Then you have these other people talking about so-called "dignity" and dragging politics into a video game, which I hate above all without exceptions. I do believe GGG will be better off washing their hands off such persons, because if you bought supporter packs only "for the sake of supporting the company" even if you disagreed with their prices, you probably supported them for the wrong reasons.
I've edited my post above a little and added some questions.
And yes, I do think a Q&A will help somewhat. Most players aren't as irrational as is shown here in the thread, so it might/would put their concerns at ease.
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Posted bysarannah101#2551on May 22, 2018, 7:25:00 AM
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Title is wrong, fixed it for you.
Tencent has invested in Wolcen.
At least no need to worry anymore about broken Paypal on this site. GGG now get's money from other surce, so I can just invest it elsewhere :-)
Just need to get to 100 once before the pay2win or abo stuff starts. Anyone willing to donate some of their T15 beachheads?
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Posted byAyuminator#5614on May 22, 2018, 7:26:52 AM
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