[3.5] Elder Bleed Gladiator ft. Blasphemer's Grasp

You should really go ruthless instead of chance to bleed.
The PoB doesn't show the real DPS. I can assure you that with ruthless your dmg almost doubles (with 100% chance to bleed some else obtained). With just 4-6 secs of attack to boss, ruthless gets full effect.

PM me personally and I'll link you my bleed dmg computation tool written in C++ online compiler where you can see this clearly.

Edit: Or in your case maybe instead of faster attacks it would be even better :-)
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Last edited by Filousov on May 15, 2018, 10:41:59 AM
Can you share screenshot from your calculator for different gem set-ups?
Last edited by NEPHAN on May 27, 2018, 8:47:40 AM
Could you take a look at my gear I feel like my damage is very low. I tried using lacerate, but the damage is way lower than when i'm using sunder. I feel like I'm missing something very important the bleed damage is very minimal compared to the brute physical damage i'm dealing.
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arkevons wrote:
Could you take a look at my gear I feel like my damage is very low. I tried using lacerate, but the damage is way lower than when i'm using sunder. I feel like I'm missing something very important the bleed damage is very minimal compared to the brute physical damage i'm dealing.


Hello @Arkevons,

I couldn't see "Vulnerability + Blasphemy Support" in your gem set-up. Together with the gem set-up chest armour links make a huge different. Please add this gem support and upgrade your body armour to at least 5 link armour. You will see a huge difference in damage dealt by your char after making these changes.

It is perfectly to ok to play with sunder if you feel that it is better than lacerate

Loving the build! Just hit a3 in like an hour and change, which is a great time for me. Currently using dual Screaming Eagles and will either switch over to dual Relentless Furys or Relentless Fury/The Gryphon. Any thoughts on that? Shields can come later once things stop blowing up immediately haha.

Is the damage from Chance to Bleed better than Ruthless for a sixth link? Seems like a toss up.
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MaxtromeFoe wrote:
Loving the build! Just hit a3 in like an hour and change, which is a great time for me. Currently using dual Screaming Eagles and will either switch over to dual Relentless Furys or Relentless Fury/The Gryphon. Any thoughts on that? Shields can come later once things stop blowing up immediately haha.

Is the damage from Chance to Bleed better than Ruthless for a sixth link? Seems like a toss up.


First of all, I am glad to hear that you are having a great time.

Considering that you also got the "Crimson Dance" node, selection of weapon is not going to make a huge difference. While leveling, my weapon of choice was Relentless Furys.

POB does not seem to calculate Bleed damage correctly.I need to test "Chance to Bleed" vs "Ruthless". I will let you know the outcome of test.
Last edited by NEPHAN on Jul 25, 2018, 7:35:11 AM
Sounds good Nephan, and thanks again. Got this on the cheap the other day, what are your thoughts? APS and PDPS are kinda low but the price was right.
Also is there a reason to use ancestral protector instead of ancestral war chief?
Last edited by MaxtromeFoe on Jul 24, 2018, 7:01:33 PM
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MaxtromeFoe wrote:
Sounds good Nephan, and thanks again. Got this on the cheap the other day, what are your thoughts? APS and PDPS are kinda low but the price was right.
Also is there a reason to use ancestral protector instead of ancestral war chief?


Hello Again MaxtromeFoe,

I did not feel a significant change on map clearing speed when I replaced "Chance to Bleed" with "Ruthless". It may be because of the fact that may gear in standard is quite good.

I really liked the Axe, increased damage with bleeding & culling strike adds lots of value.

I use Ancestral Protector over Ancestral Warchief for our weapon of destruction is bleed damage and attack speed increases numbers of bleeds inflicted per second.

You mentioned this is a good league starter, but requires more or less full Elder items.
How does that work?
HEllo @ckp2906

You do not need any Elder items at the beginning and follow the tree given in the guide until you get to a point that you can convert to Elder items. Elder items are significantly increasing the damage output together with defensive stats thanks to Blasphemer's Grap by providing quality of life when it comes to flasks.

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