deadeye's far shot is useless and makes deadeye weak

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Perq wrote:

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grepman wrote:

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Perq wrote:

Its actually awesome. :V My only gripe is that Far Shot is Attack Projectiles only. And there was me hoping for Deadeye caster. :<

magma orb deadeye with gloomfang will be stupid strong.

Why would she be? Gloomfang works the opposite to the Deadeyes node. Gloomfang works better with each chain and Deadeye's point works better with first chains. In other words, if you get both you get more consistent damage, but not really that much more on bosses.

It would be better if Far Shot worked with spells, it doesn't sooooo, not much of a change here.

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Salvi123 wrote:

the difference between dual wield slayer and deadeye is 56 damage/10 attack speed and half of all minor passives 2.5 notable passive (far shot gives you nothing if you are caster deadeye, fast and deadly gives you 30% projectile damage, gathering winds 10-20 ms and cast speed, 1000 evasion (I think dex will be low since as a caster you want go to witch/templar area)). let be honest, slayer was OP with his leech, bane of legends, stun/bleed immune, I don't sure if deadeye can handle this loss as successfully as slayer but if you think so, then ok.
about glare: is this a true? I saw a lot of build using lioneye's glare, but almost all build makers told that they using glare simply because high phys dps and "hits can't be evaded"
I'm so fixated on far shot because I'd never seen that someone using it, ofcourse it's better than nothing, but imagine something else as notable ascendancy instead of it.

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grepman wrote:

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Salvi123 wrote:

the difference between dual wield slayer and deadeye is 56 damage/10 attack speed and half of all minor passives 2.5 notable passive (far shot gives you nothing if you are caster deadeye, fast and deadly gives you 30% projectile damage, gathering winds 10-20 ms and cast speed, 1000 evasion (I think dex will be low since as a caster you want go to witch/templar area)). let be honest, slayer was OP with his leech, bane of legends, stun/bleed immune, I don't sure if deadeye can handle this loss as successfully as slayer but if you think so, then ok.
about glare: is this a true? I saw a lot of build using lioneye's glare, but almost all build makers told that they using glare simply because high phys dps and "hits can't be evaded"
I'm so fixated on far shot because I'd never seen that someone using it, ofcourse it's better than nothing, but imagine something else as notable ascendancy instead of it.

Im not saying lioneyes glare is used for far shot, but its not 'bad to have'.

look, I agree with premise of your post that far shot is somewhat weak in terms of being a notable in ascendancy tree -it is not that important to archers and doesnt work with casters

however, youre extending this valid point into some sillyness that it makes the ascendancy weak and whole ascendancy is about magma orb...wut ?

also, youve never seen someone using far shot, this means youve never seen someone use endless munitions too (since its a must-travel node currently) ? well one deadeye I made for ssfhc mayhem (or turmoil, the one that didnt void) was using that (and endless munitions) with ice shot

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MarboroMan wrote:

far shot is not bad.
depends on if you want to utilize its mechanics or not.
if not, dont take this node.
if so, you could for example combine with proj weakness for knockback,
or king of the hill.
could combine a dmg multiplier and some extra defense.

"far shot is idiotic, because i only play chin sol, and this doesnt work well with far shot"

sounds to me like
"spoons are idiotic, because i only eat french fries, and they are hard to eat with spoons"

either dont use spoon in that gear slot, or try to combine spoon&soup ;)

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Salvi123 wrote:

if you want to play with ricochet or/and endless munitions you can't not take this node, because it blocks ricochet and endless munitions.

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grepman wrote:

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Perq wrote:

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grepman wrote:

magma orb deadeye with gloomfang will be stupid strong.

Why would she be? Gloomfang works the opposite to the Deadeyes node. Gloomfang works better with each chain and Deadeye's point works better with first chains. In other words, if you get both you get more consistent damage, but not really that much more on bosses.

It would be better if Far Shot worked with spells, it doesn't sooooo, not much of a change here.

have you seen gloomfang MO on bosses if you aim well and precast ? they croak in one hit. so having it damage more on first chains via ricochet helps kinda the same way far shot helps toons with point blank ;)

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MarboroMan wrote:

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Salvi123 wrote:

if you want to play with ricochet or/and endless munitions you can't not take this node, because it blocks ricochet and endless munitions.

was there an "old" far shot with a dmg penalty?
https://web.poecdn.com/public/news/2018-02-26/NormalShapes.jpg
here it just says "deals more dmg" nothing about less/reduced dmg,
so what?

or u just mean because you have to spend 2 points on travelling nodes?
in this case i agree,
6 points for only +1chain and +1 proj is poor....
kind of....
but only if u really dont want to utilize far shot and build around it.

if there is really nothing impactfull to do with it,
the community will leave deadeye underrepresented,
so 2 or 3 leagues later we'll see some buffs there i assume.

till then we just keep playing 9-frenzy-whatever-skill-raider and the occasional calamity heavymentalist.
will be fun as well :)