Does rIdiculous grind limit the development of this game?

Hello,

I'm ok with op. But the game change, and players too... Playing since 2 years, and my game play change ... in the beginning, i played slow build, taking time to do a beautiful hideout, ... It was a lot of think that i didn't know about the game, his game play, ...

Now, i know that. I kow the difference between good and bad build, good and bad item, ... My main goal is to go to end game every league.

I'm not the same player. I don't need the same game.

PoE has a faithful base player. Lot of us play since a long time ago, and our goal change. Lot of us know the story of NPC, ...


Ulren

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RedStark wrote:

Question for you op.Do you see the rewards from boss?Are garbage,wasting time.If you do a fast build you clear more maps and you get more rewards in less time.And if i can play 3hours i better do 200 maps than 50maps.

this. As a working family man my play time is max 3h.and as you said better do 200 maps then 50 because chance to get something is much highier. It's bad game design but it is what it is.

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Kastmar wrote:

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RedStark wrote:

Question for you op.Do you see the rewards from boss?Are garbage,wasting time.If you do a fast build you clear more maps and you get more rewards in less time.And if i can play 3hours i better do 200 maps than 50maps.

this. As a working family man my play time is max 3h.and as you said better do 200 maps then 50 because chance to get something is much highier. It's bad game design but it is what it is.

This! As a gay vegan dog who can only play 30 minutes per day, it's unacceptable that I can do only act 1 within 3 months. GGG should limit the game to 2 acts MAXIMUM! It's bad game design but it is what it is.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

They need to quit worrying about players who are simply "too good" for their game. Fine. You win. Great. Make a game that's fun for the rest of us.

I think our Chris is taking a page from the "other Wilson" with players racing to 100 in under 1 week from a league start by stating "we made the xp needed to level from 90 to 100 very high... and then we doubled it!" So long as there are insanely fast map clear builds + insanely no-life low real life players that will play the map grind game 24/7 until they get to 100 (cool content, interesting backstory, great new special fx or better visuals... screw all that it's speed running maps forever) GGG will keep doubling the xp until either no insanely fast build can get to 100 in a week or GGG hear's that some one died while trying (no sleep until a level 100 build or death, whichever comes first).

GGG has really painted coded themselves into a corner with allowing uber fast mob kill builds and as previously stated can't turn the clock back on this without severe player backlash. It's a really big mess and GGG has no patch to fix this and the majority of us "filthy casuals" are all the worse off for PoE evolving into suck a fucking speed game.

Gonna chip in and point out that scorpion boss keeps getting mentioned, but the real issue with that boss is that the interval's only purpose is to waste your time.

You can't die, it isn't challenging, you have to repeatedly trigger the boss to move (if you go too fast it just sits there underground)

then the boss has another interval in the actual real fight where is fine IMO the whole point is you should go straight to the 2nd arena, the first ones just a time waster.

Even if the game was much slower i'd feel the first interval was offensive unless the tail attack did immense damage and you genuinely struggled to deal with the scorpions because they are so hench, everything else is just meh are we there yet.

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osesek wrote:

Yes, I know this isn't a game for casuals.

Are you kicking me out? I have nowhere else to go. I'm casual as fuck.

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frenzul wrote:

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osesek wrote:

Yes, I know this isn't a game for casuals.

Are you kicking me out? I have nowhere else to go. I'm casual as fuck.

This game supports all levels of gameplay.

I don't understand how anyone can say 'the game isn't for casuals'.

Follow a build guide, and kill stuff. It's about as casual as any other ARPG's.

It just has an extreme level of depth, meaning if you want to be hardcore, and min/max your own build nobody else is using you can totally do that.

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frenzul wrote:

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osesek wrote:

Yes, I know this isn't a game for casuals.

Are you kicking me out? I have nowhere else to go. I'm casual as fuck.

You are very welcome, please tell everyone when you find lab trials in maps so we can all prosper in defeating gating RNG!

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Draegnarrr wrote:

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frenzul wrote:

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osesek wrote:

Yes, I know this isn't a game for casuals.

Are you kicking me out? I have nowhere else to go. I'm casual as fuck.

You are very welcome, please tell everyone when you find lab trials in maps so we can all prosper in defeating gating RNG!

Is this sarcasm or something? I do give my trials away lol. Every last one. I did them enough to ascend and now I want nothing to do with them.

It wasn't sarcasm :(