[3.2] Abyss Shripper feat. Chin Sol - Raider TS Barrage / 6k+ Life 3.8M Shaper DPS / Uber Elder Down

any ideas what to aim for next, I'm thinking +1 and +2 helms for barrage and tornado shot, watcher's eye with double anger(fire damage+multi) and improve gems? Everything is getting very expensive rn

I don't see the Anger Crit Multi variant in PoB, and have no updates to download. Is this the same for everyone else?

Also, 50crit multi at my gearing (2.6m chin sol shaper dps, nearly all life/2 damage affix jewels) seems to actually be less increased dps than a life/3 damage affix jewel. I tested this by using a single affix 10crit multi jewel and just multiplied the value by 5. Doing the same test with Kaleav's PoB, I do see a large gain from 50crit multi. So, question becomes "Is 50crit multi watcher's eye something we're intended to get near the very end of gearing, once we have higher flat damage values or do I need get a multi-anger watcher's eye to make it viable?". I would like to see if others had different findings.

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iNevermore wrote:

I don't see the Anger Crit Multi variant in PoB, and have no updates to download. Is this the same for everyone else?

Also, 50crit multi at my gearing (2.6m chin sol shaper dps, nearly all life/2 damage affix jewels) seems to actually be less increased dps than a life/3 damage affix jewel. I tested this by using a single affix 10crit multi jewel and just multiplied the value by 5. Doing the same test with Kaleav's PoB, I do see a large gain from 50crit multi. So, question becomes "Is 50crit multi watcher's eye something we're intended to get near the very end of gearing, once we have higher flat damage values or do I need get a multi-anger watcher's eye to make it viable?". I would like to see if others had different findings.

I didn't see the Anger Crit-Multi variant either.

Here's the item text from my budget w/e jewel with which you can create one in POB:

The value of crit multi will depend on how much base damage you're doing, how often you crit and how much crit multi you already have. It's generally a great stat - and if it's not high-valued for you then perhaps you need more base damage or higher crit chance.

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bestesthunterEU wrote:

any ideas what to aim for next, I'm thinking +1 and +2 helms for barrage and tornado shot, watcher's eye with double anger(fire damage+multi) and improve gems? Everything is getting very expensive rn

Hey I've looked at your character.

First few things that you can do cheaply : Go eternal lab when the layout is ez. Get lightning or ele penetration enchant on boots. It isn't that difficult as helmet.
Second, try to craft or buy life + blind on hit + dmg jewel. It does really magical defense against attack-skill boss.

Enchant Helmet is good aim at your points. Barrage if you focus bossing or TS if you like mapping.

I wanted to mention that high-end gear is really expensive in any build. I think my Bestiary budget gears(except enchant and HH) are obtainable. After that, slamming jewels and upgrading double watcher's eye, add arrow Chin Sol, vaaling many quivers - all of these costs alot to push one step further.

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iNevermore wrote:

I don't see the Anger Crit Multi variant in PoB, and have no updates to download. Is this the same for everyone else?

Also, 50crit multi at my gearing (2.6m chin sol shaper dps, nearly all life/2 damage affix jewels) seems to actually be less increased dps than a life/3 damage affix jewel. I tested this by using a single affix 10crit multi jewel and just multiplied the value by 5. Doing the same test with Kaleav's PoB, I do see a large gain from 50crit multi. So, question becomes "Is 50crit multi watcher's eye something we're intended to get near the very end of gearing, once we have higher flat damage values or do I need get a multi-anger watcher's eye to make it viable?". I would like to see if others had different findings.

Hi, POB isn't fully updated so you need manually write down(or copy and paste from my pob).

I am wondering if you have good enough tier(for example t1~t3) damage in your jewel.

https://pastebin.com/EC1m0h5L
This is my pob of level 90 (day 7 BSC) in budget section. If you double-click Grim Vision Searching eye jewel, you will see it is the best rare jewel at that point by seeing + dps if replacing other. But Anger crit multi jewel does give higher dps than this jewel.

If you look at the gears, it is not the very end of gearing. Anger crit multi jewel is already the best dps jewel. Regarding 4mod jewel(life + 3 dmg affix) costs 5ex - 10ex or more, watcher's eye is very cost effective for this build.

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hankinsohl wrote:

I didn't see the Anger Crit-Multi variant either.

Here's the item text from my budget w/e jewel with which you can create one in POB:

Spoiler

Rarity: Unique
Watcher's Eye
Prismatic Jewel
--------
Limited to: 1
--------
Item Level: 82
--------
5% increased maximum Energy Shield
4% increased maximum Life
5% increased maximum Mana
7% chance to Block Spells while affected by Discipline
+42% to Critical Strike Multiplier while affected by Anger
--------
One by one, they stood their ground against a creature
they had no hope of understanding, let alone defeating,
and one by one, they became a part of it.
--------
Place into an allocated Jewel Socket on the Passive Skill Tree. Right click to remove from the Socket.

The value of crit multi will depend on how much base damage you're doing, how often you crit and how much crit multi you already have. It's generally a great stat - and if it's not high-valued for you then perhaps you need more base damage or higher crit chance.

Thanks for explanation! I agree.

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Hey I've looked at your character.

First few things that you can do cheaply : Go eternal lab when the layout is ez. Get lightning or ele penetration enchant on boots. It isn't that difficult as helmet.
Second, try to craft or buy life + blind on hit + dmg jewel. It does really magical defense against attack-skill boss.

Enchant Helmet is good aim at your points. Barrage if you focus bossing or TS if you like mapping.

I wanted to mention that high-end gear is really expensive in any build. I think my Bestiary budget gears(except enchant and HH) are obtainable. After that, slamming jewels and upgrading double watcher's eye, add arrow Chin Sol, vaaling many quivers - all of these costs alot to push one step further.

I just recently swapped boots so am trying to get it back at the moment(having a bit of bad luck)

I think I'm above the budget section as I'm on 4.1mil dps, I've slammed a few jewels so far with some success. Just trying to make that much currency for some of the stuff is painful atm :/

after the 10 tries finally uber elder down !

thx for the build m8 ;)

got 3 ish mill barrage dps and 6.5k ehp

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hankinsohl wrote:

I didn't see the Anger Crit-Multi variant either.

Here's the item text from my budget w/e jewel with which you can create one in POB:

Spoiler

Rarity: Unique
Watcher's Eye
Prismatic Jewel
--------
Limited to: 1
--------
Item Level: 82
--------
5% increased maximum Energy Shield
4% increased maximum Life
5% increased maximum Mana
7% chance to Block Spells while affected by Discipline
+42% to Critical Strike Multiplier while affected by Anger
--------
One by one, they stood their ground against a creature
they had no hope of understanding, let alone defeating,
and one by one, they became a part of it.
--------
Place into an allocated Jewel Socket on the Passive Skill Tree. Right click to remove from the Socket.

The value of crit multi will depend on how much base damage you're doing, how often you crit and how much crit multi you already have. It's generally a great stat - and if it's not high-valued for you then perhaps you need more base damage or higher crit chance.

Thank you for the jewel copypasta. Apparently my patchwork testing wasn't very accurate, as it's a 130k or so dps increase for a couple of my 2 damage affix jewels. I really thought, for a minute, that it was just because my base damages were so low with already having 398% critmulti, because my crit chance isn't the limiting factor(78%). Thanks again.

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kaleav wrote:

Hi, POB isn't fully updated so you need manually write down(or copy and paste from my pob).

I am wondering if you have good enough tier(for example t1~t3) damage in your jewel.

https://pastebin.com/EC1m0h5L
This is my pob of level 90 (day 7 BSC) in budget section. If you double-click Grim Vision Searching eye jewel, you will see it is the best rare jewel at that point by seeing + dps if replacing other. But Anger crit multi jewel does give higher dps than this jewel.

If you look at the gears, it is not the very end of gearing. Anger crit multi jewel is already the best dps jewel. Regarding 4mod jewel(life + 3 dmg affix) costs 5ex - 10ex or more, watcher's eye is very cost effective for this build.

"

hankinsohl wrote:

I didn't see the Anger Crit-Multi variant either.

Here's the item text from my budget w/e jewel with which you can create one in POB:

Spoiler

Rarity: Unique
Watcher's Eye
Prismatic Jewel
--------
Limited to: 1
--------
Item Level: 82
--------
5% increased maximum Energy Shield
4% increased maximum Life
5% increased maximum Mana
7% chance to Block Spells while affected by Discipline
+42% to Critical Strike Multiplier while affected by Anger
--------
One by one, they stood their ground against a creature
they had no hope of understanding, let alone defeating,
and one by one, they became a part of it.
--------
Place into an allocated Jewel Socket on the Passive Skill Tree. Right click to remove from the Socket.

The value of crit multi will depend on how much base damage you're doing, how often you crit and how much crit multi you already have. It's generally a great stat - and if it's not high-valued for you then perhaps you need more base damage or higher crit chance.

Thanks for explanation! I agree.

Thanks for the reply, I agree, Watcher's Eye is very cost effective(even if buying 6/50) when considering great 4mod jewels(working on that, lol).

Thanks for linking your 90pob, too. I was wondering which points you did last, and looking at that, it makes sense. I dropped the points after Heart of the Oak up to Aspect of the Eagle near the starting area so that I can finish off life nodes in duelist and Revenge of the Hunted. My last question, if you don't mind: after 90, pick up the last abysal jewel slot or work toward Aspect of the Eagle first?

Thanks again.

Thanks for the advice. Really loving the build. Think I might upgrade jewels to 40+ life each to reach 6k, then give Uber Elder a try. Have ran Uber Atziri and Shaper deathless multiple times (although that 1% reflect on Uber Atziri can be a bitch with 4.1m Shaper DPS :P).

Sold my HH that I farmed this league to fund the build, and LOVING IT so far! Thanks for the informative guide, and answering my questions :)

Good build, really enjoying it.

Though, I am debating going with a Pathfinder variation. I'm a big fan of having flasks up much more often and not being "dry" on maps with no quicksilver charges and nothing to regen them around me at times. It's also easier to cap resists. I figure I could 5L Poacher's Mark for frenzy in the chestpiece then have my +1 Chin Sol with barrage rather than having Tornado shot in both weapons then just swap/barrage on bosses.

I realize I lose the frenzy benefits on bosses, but I still think overall the benefit is greater with flask uptime. Is there any other reason Raider is superior? Anything I'm missing?

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Kaegyn wrote:

Good build, really enjoying it.

Though, I am debating going with a Pathfinder variation. I'm a big fan of having flasks up much more often and not being "dry" on maps with no quicksilver charges and nothing to regen them around me at times. It's also easier to cap resists. I figure I could 5L Poacher's Mark for frenzy in the chestpiece then have my +1 Chin Sol with barrage rather than having Tornado shot in both weapons then just swap/barrage on bosses.

I realize I lose the frenzy benefits on bosses, but I still think overall the benefit is greater with flask uptime. Is there any other reason Raider is superior? Anything I'm missing?

Try changing to raider in PoB. I did this with Deadeye when considering it since the buffs, looked great until I unchecked the frenzy charges and lost over 1mil shaper dps with barrage. Deadeye obviously has different trade-offs than raider would but both comparisons come down to losing boss dps(or manually using frenzy) vs minor qols.

Possibly flask uptime over a longer fight, with a couple of transition phases could beat two flask uses + perma frenzy, but that would have to be judged on a per fight basis imo.

From personal experience, I've never had issues with flask duration while map clearing, except maybe if I had to double back a long distance. Oneshotting a single pack usually fills you back up.