Elder needs to be toned down. Plan and simple

I am not going to lie - I've done him in yellow and white (not red) with two builds (molten strike and AW totem) and I still don't fully understand the mechanics - and I still beat him.

Like, when he does the big concentric circles, am I supposed to be close or far.

I really hate admitting I facerolled (in SSF no less), but I totally did.

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Slaanesh69 wrote:

I am not going to lie - I've done him in yellow and white (not red) with two builds (molten strike and AW totem) and I still don't fully understand the mechanics - and I still beat him.

Like, when he does the big concentric circles, am I supposed to be close or far.

I really hate admitting I facerolled (in SSF no less), but I totally did.

the area-wide circle move? you're supposed to stay inside, elder will likely do his slow+degen cone move during this period so you'll need to look for a safe spot within the inner circle. If you position him correctly, you can continue to dps him when he does this.

I thought it was hard at first (first time was gold map) but once you learn the fight he is very easy. Watch some vids and/or practice.

No life on one of the rings, no life on the jewel, no life on boots, low life on one of the rings, terrible life on astral plate. I had more life than you on my spectre summoner, and that one was trying to stay away from most mobs while you get close.

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andreicde wrote:

No life on one of the rings, no life on the jewel, no life on boots, low life on one of the rings, terrible life on astral plate. I had more life than you on my spectre summoner, and that one was trying to stay away from most mobs while you get close.

he is still learning obviously. Don't be hard on him.
Elder is not hard. I find more difficult fist stage than second. Maybe because my dps is close to 2M. So portals are easy to kill. But I'm glass canyon and I often die in this black circles. After that stage im fine. Op will be fine too when he level up and get some advice how to build characters. It take some time of course.

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Kastmar wrote:

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andreicde wrote:

No life on one of the rings, no life on the jewel, no life on boots, low life on one of the rings, terrible life on astral plate. I had more life than you on my spectre summoner, and that one was trying to stay away from most mobs while you get close.

he is still learning obviously. Don't be hard on him.
Elder is not hard. I find more difficult fist stage than second. Maybe because my dps is close to 2M. So portals are easy to kill. But I'm glass canyon and I often die in this black circles. After that stage im fine. Op will be fine too when he level up and get some advice how to build characters. It take some time of course.

Trust me, he'll learn faster this way than from the responses he got on the thread, aka ''l2p'' or ''get gud''. He certainly needs more life on his build though.

Just a reminder: if you die at a boss, then you can't beat it.

Elder difficulty is fine.

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Kastmar wrote:

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andreicde wrote:

No life on one of the rings, no life on the jewel, no life on boots, low life on one of the rings, terrible life on astral plate. I had more life than you on my spectre summoner, and that one was trying to stay away from most mobs while you get close.

he is still learning obviously. Don't be hard on him.
Elder is not hard. I find more difficult fist stage than second. Maybe because my dps is close to 2M. So portals are easy to kill. But I'm glass canyon and I often die in this black circles. After that stage im fine. Op will be fine too when he level up and get some advice how to build characters. It take some time of course.

Thank you.

I haven't tried the Elder on a red map yet, but on white/yellow he can be beaten quite easily once you're able to take down the adds quickly enough. Because the debuff (on the ground) will totally screw you, later in the fight.

I'm playing a bow build as well and what changed it for me was adding a single target skill (barrage) to my GMP/Ice Shot. You really need a high DPS, single target skill to handle the adds and also for the Elder himself. Those adds should go down in 3-4 sec max, which will give you enough time to focus on the Elder as well.

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Kastmar wrote:

he is still learning obviously. Don't be hard on him.

That is the kind of people who everyone should be hard on. People who have no knowledge or experience should not be smacking their lips in public spaces and spread misinformation. They should be made fun of as much as possible. There is no other way people are willing to change themselves / learn.