[3.2] AVP - Abyssal Volatile Poet || Now with MF option

Why Sanctify/Pious Path over Augury of Pentinance/Instruments of Virtue?
livejamie
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livejamie wrote:
Why Sanctify/Pious Path over Augury of Pentinance/Instruments of Virtue?


It's mostly a matter of personal preference. The other options are really great for pure damage and consistency (you always have tha attack speed and the damage bonus) and probably are better if you focus on just map farming.
The consacrated ground route is amazaing for the utility it provides though, you gain a bit less damage, same attack speed (1% more actually, not a big deal) but you gain ailments immunity and huge life and mana regen. Potentially those bonuses are not 100% of the time, but you can force them with a flask which gives damage by itself (Sulphur Flask) and has 3 uses, so it's pretty reliable. It's also way better against bosses in my opinion, 'cause you want to stay at range most of the times (so you would not make use of the "nearby enemies" stuff) and you gain free sustain that otherwise you would not have. That's even better nowadays that many bosses have invulnerable phases, where you cannot leech from them and regen is the only sustain you get use.
Abyssal Volatile Poet: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2057243
MagicBlaster Deadeye: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2115343
Fortifier Aurabot: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2084465
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lallalaus wrote:
I'm not 100% sure either, But I strongly believe it consider you as always stationary (since it doesn't even interact with haku's mission and lab/trial anti-movement traps) and it seems working like flicker strike.

Well, the pantheon that requires you to remain stationary deactivates when you body swap, can watch it on character sheet.
hello currently having some trouble sometimes dieing to guardians , in your video i saw you removed your bodyswap when doing guardians , should i do the same?
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Shlomika wrote:
hello currently having some trouble sometimes dieing to guardians , in your video i saw you removed your bodyswap when doing guardians , should i do the same?


Yeah, in hard fights I prefer having full control on my character and move precisely when and where I want. Not just that, but removing Bodyswap to add another support gem to Volatile Dead increases your damage by a lot.
You should also use your flasks more efficiently than I did in my video (those were my first attempts with this character, so I was still testing how much damage I was able to deal and take), refreshing them with portals if you need it.
Abyssal Volatile Poet: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2057243
MagicBlaster Deadeye: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2115343
Fortifier Aurabot: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2084465
Last edited by lallalaus on Jan 15, 2018, 7:23:45 AM
This is one of the most detailed and nicely setup guides ive read :) Is there any noticeable difference between this and smelcami's build? I have about 8ex and 200c left so im curious as to which build i should play. I mainly wanna do maps with some bossing.
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famulor wrote:
This is one of the most detailed and nicely setup guides ive read :) Is there any noticeable difference between this and smelcami's build? I have about 8ex and 200c left so im curious as to which build i should play. I mainly wanna do maps with some bossing.


First of all I'm happy that you liked the guide.
Second, I invite you to ask him the same question to have his point of view too.

This is not an easy question. I honestly believe mine is better and has more room to grow the more investment you put into it, but it's also more expensive if you want to achieve those big numbers; if you are starting with no gear/gems/jewels at all, with your budget, you can probably achieve better results with smelcami version.
The big pro of smelcami's build (or any other "rare items" based) is the fact that you can achieve more than 4 casts per second, using the new shaper mods on boots and belt.
Keep in mind that obviously I'm a little biased, since I have just played my version and not smelcami's one, but looking at the two builds and PoB setups I can see the following things.

- My build (level 92) with single target setup (Volatile Dead + Conc Effect + Ele Focus):

VD avg hit: 80'676 against normal monsters
VD avg hit: 75'515 against shaper

Life: 6'396
Mana: 2'261 (since I use MoM) or 1'695 (if using a 25% mana reservation skill)

- smelcami build (level 91) he always use a "single target" setup on VD, with two support gems

VD avg hit: 81'476 against normal monsters
VD avg hit: 65'659 against shaper

Life: 6'650
Mana: not relevant, since doesn't use MoM


This doesn't tell everything, since it's just a bunch of numbers and there are many other factors involved in the two builds.
You should keep in mind that he can achieve bigger effective dps with VD since he can cast it more than 4 times per second, but I can also have the damage provided by Cremation, which is pretty good actually (about 23k avg hit, but I can have 3 volcanos down at the same time and that's the damage of a single projectile, while each of them shoots 8 projectiles per second).
I have the added clearspeed coming from Lightpoacher, but he has more freedom with the gem links and jewels, he also doesn't need to have so many jewels in his build (they can get expensive).
Abyssal Volatile Poet: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2057243
MagicBlaster Deadeye: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2115343
Fortifier Aurabot: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2084465
Last edited by lallalaus on Jan 15, 2018, 4:54:41 PM
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lallalaus wrote:
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famulor wrote:
This is one of the most detailed and nicely setup guides ive read :) Is there any noticeable difference between this and smelcami's build? I have about 8ex and 200c left so im curious as to which build i should play. I mainly wanna do maps with some bossing.


First of all I'm happy that you liked the guide.
Second, I invite you to ask him the same question to have his point of view too.

This is not an easy question. I honestly believe mine is better and has more room to grow the more investment you put into it, but it's also more expensive if you want to achieve those big numbers; if you are starting with no gear/gems/jewels at all, with your budget, you can probably achieve better results with smelcami version.
The big pro of smelcami's build (or any other "rare items" based) is the fact that you can achieve more than 4 casts per second, using the new shaper mods on boots and belt.
Keep in mind that obviously I'm a little biased, since I have just played my version and not smelcami's one, but looking at the two builds and PoB setups I can see the following things.

- My build (level 92) with single target setup (Volatile Dead + Conc Effect + Ele Focus):

VD avg hit: 80'676 against normal monsters
VD avg hit: 75'515 against shaper

Life: 6'396
Mana: 2'261 (since I use MoM) or 1'695 (if using a 25% mana reservation skill)

- smelcami build (level 91) he always use a "single target" setup on VD, with two support gems

VD avg hit: 81'476 against normal monsters
VD avg hit: 65'659 against shaper

Life: 6'650
Mana: not relevant, since doesn't use MoM


This doesn't tell everything, since it's just a bunch of numbers and there are many other factors involved in the two builds.
You should keep in mind that he can achieve bigger effective dps with VD since he can cast it more than 4 times per second, but I can also have the damage provided by Cremation, which is pretty good actually (about 23k avg hit, but I can have 3 volcanos down at the same time and that's the damage of a single projectile, while each of them shoots 8 projectiles per second).
I have the added clearspeed coming from Lightpoacher, but he has more freedom with the gem links and jewels, he also doesn't need to have so many jewels in his build (they can get expensive).
Thanks for the quick response man! I guess im doing the other version then. :P
Last edited by famulor on Jan 15, 2018, 6:20:33 PM
Pretty cool build. I wasn't a fan of the bodyswap mechanics at first and almost gave up on it. I got used to it though once I learned to control my movements. Very satisfying build for leveling. I kind of threw some gear I already had together and made a sort of hybrid between your build and smelcami's. The price of two socket bubonics are just stupid right now. Shroud is pretty high as well. Over all I'm very happy with this build. Cheers!



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With faster attacks in link what's your APS? You might be clipping your cooldowns and actually hurting your damage output by attacking too fast.

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