Same base item but different /itemlevel

So today I noticed something that I have more questions about. 2 Items can look exactly the same but when you use the /itemlevel you get different numbers.

Example:
has an item level of 37
and has an item level of 43.

That is a big spread in numbers.

Does the Item level numbers affect the random chance of using orbs on an item? Like how many mods on the rare or how many tries for the max amount of sockets?

Is there any way to find the item level range outside of using /itemlevel in the game?

If the hidden item level number does affect the way crafting works on an item, is there a way to find this number from the chat channels or before I trade items?

Just a couple of questions (and maybe concerns) about having the same base item with a hidden ilvl number.

I love Path of Exile, keep up the great work!

Thank you

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Soulsniper wrote:

Does the Item level numbers affect the random chance of using orbs on an item? Like how many mods on the rare or how many tries for the max amount of sockets?

Not exactly. But the item-level still has an effect on crafting:

(1) Have a look at the prefix and suffix mods available for rares and uniques. You'll notice that these mods require a certain item-lvl to be able to appear on an item.

For example:
A weapon only needs a minimum lvl of 11 to be able to get the 'serrated' mod (which increases the weapon's local physical damage by a random value between 50% to 69%).
But only a lvl 60 weapon is eligible to get the 'cruel' mod (which also increases its local physical damage, but the random value is much higher: 130% to 149%).
(^I hope these values are still upto date)


(2) The item-level also affects the number of sockets that can appear on the respective item. That's why one doesn't find any equip with more than two sockets at very low lvls.
So if you're 'fishing' for valuable mods via crafting, you'd want to make sure it has the right item-lvl.

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Soulsniper wrote:

Is there any way to find the item level range outside of using /itemlevel in the game?

That is unbeknownst to me! /itemlvl is the only command I know of, regarding checking the item-lvl (besides 'educated guesses' by looking at the mods' values).

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Soulsniper wrote:

If the hidden item level number does affect the way crafting works on an item, is there a way to find this number from the chat channels or before I trade items?
Thank you

An item's Item Level will always be equal or greater than the minimum level of the (white version) item.

So if you seen those boots for trade, you would know that they are at *least* Item Level 33.

Additionally, you can just ask.
For the most part, most 5 and 6 socket items (what most people would be concerned about item level on) will be either item level 50/51, 54/55, 55/56, or 60/61. This is due to the locations (zones) that are most farmed in Merciless difficulty (Ledge, Felshrine, Dread Thicket, and Chaos).

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wyldmage wrote:

An item's Item Level will always be equal or greater than the minimum level of the (white version) item.

So if you seen those boots for trade, you would know that they are at *least* Item Level 33.

Silly me - true! :)

The lists ofcourse are overhere:

• armour
• weapon