[3.5] Asymat's "Purenado Shot" | HC (party friendly) | Progressive budget

Hey Asymat, loving the build. Would you please take a look at my char to see what I should shift around? Been running Uber lab trying to chase that +2 TS helmet enchant but no dice. Also getting a bit lost with the last few points since I had to regret a few and forgot what I should be focusing next in the tree.

My char is here: http://poe-profile.info/profile/rxjames

Thanks!
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RxJames wrote:
Hey Asymat, loving the build. Would you please take a look at my char to see what I should shift around? Been running Uber lab trying to chase that +2 TS helmet enchant but no dice. Also getting a bit lost with the last few points since I had to regret a few and forgot what I should be focusing next in the tree.

My char is here: http://poe-profile.info/profile/rxjames

Thanks!

Hi RxJames, glad you like the build! At this point, I think you still miss enough stuff to stick with the guide (not yet minmaxable).

I'll still leave random thoughts:

* The 3 points before True Strike are uber shitty. (only take them when either you are naturally pathing next to them or some Cast on Crit builds [global crit has more value in that case]).
* Aspect of the eagle has mediocre value.
* Shadow area has really good overall stats per point. You also regain some int.
* Real damage comes from abyss jewels. Dont forget to put the best ones in your Darkness Enthroned.
* /!\ you have no curse-immune flask. WTF?! (does work vs map mod curses too if you didn't know)
* I hope you don't try to uber-enchant your shitty helm.

You still have plenty of rooms to update and level, HFGL!

tree: https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/3.3.1/AAAABAABAQBeAO4DBAOWCC4KmxR1FSAWvxhWGY4ZtCF2IuIjMSP2JP0mlSpNLOktgzBxMHwx-jQgNZI31DnUOkI64TsoPydHfkfiSn1KyEt4TZJN41FHVUtW-luvW9NfOWBDYeJlTWegbj1uqm87cFJ293fXeA17bnvDfXV_K4GsguSDCYUOhrOGzocHh3aJa4nTiq-K8Iw2jX2NuY2_kBGUoJchmy2bjaCfotmkOaYypleocqlIqXmwq7DYsVuxfLXyvTa9Xb6Avqe-vMAawTPBfMPmxILIzMjc0ujTftQj2E3Yvdpi3ajfb9-g45_kaucK51TpRux07T_tg-4O73rvj_JF9qP9bv4K_o_-uv_e?accountName=RxJames&characterName=ArtemisInc
And next point crit multi near Harrier.
Purenado Shot: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2050639
CycloPoet's PenFinder: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2123005
Last edited by Asymat on Jul 18, 2018, 6:27:01 PM
Asymat, thank you so much, just what I needed!
I have fixed my tree with what points I have.
Now if only I can stop dying maybe I'll level past 92 XD.
I have a curse flask somewhere but I am actually noob on when to use it.

My concern now is how much to spend on new jewels and helmet?
I have about 2ex and 800c at my disposal on softcore Inc.

Also should I just sell Bubonic Trail and get 2 abyss socket Tombfists instead?

Thanks again.
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RxJames wrote:
Asymat, thank you so much, just what I needed!
I have fixed my tree with what points I have.
Now if only I can stop dying maybe I'll level past 92 XD.
I have a curse flask somewhere but I am actually noob on when to use it.

My concern now is how much to spend on new jewels and helmet?
I have about 2ex and 800c at my disposal on softcore Inc.

Also should I just sell Bubonic Trail and get 2 abyss socket Tombfists instead?

Thanks again.

How do you die? Your char should allready feel "safe". This is definitely not a face-tank build.

Maybe get some more evasion (boots or helm).

Imo Bubonic Trail is only great when you have very good abyss jewels.

Before Tombfists, you'll need a Watcher Eye's Hatred conversion.

Imo you should first get TS Enchant +2 because it will lock rest of your gear (as its the most expensive item of the build).

Why are you not playing blood rage? It has good attack speed buff.

And I don't like too much your HoI setup.

Purenado Shot: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2050639
CycloPoet's PenFinder: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2123005
Last edited by Asymat on Jul 19, 2018, 9:40:25 PM
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How do you die? Your char should allready feel "safe". This is definitely not a face-tank build.
I decided to help a friend run some risky high level red maps while I was at 25% and paid dearly. I will play safer from now on.

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Maybe get some more evasion (boots or helm).
Imo Bubonic Trail is only great when you have very good abyss jewels.
I do miss the evasion and spell dodge from Atziri's Step, so I might just switch back to that or a similar rare and try to boost my chaos res.

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Before Tombfists, you'll need a Watcher Eye's Hatred conversion.
Yea sticking to Hrimburn for now, both Tombfists and Watcher's Eye out of my budget.

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Imo you should first get TS Enchant +2 because it will lock rest of your gear (as its the most expensive item of the build).
I know I desperately need this but also super expensive to buy and reroll, so until then praying to RNGesus with uber labs.

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Why are you not playing blood rage? It has good attack speed buff.
Tried Blood Rage with CWDT and got tired of spamming life potion when I ran out of mobs, even though 2X Might of the Meek is giving me 1.4% life regen. I know if I want to play better I need to self cast but I'm just being lazy about it. I may revisit the jewel in the future.

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And I don't like too much your HoI setup.
For some reason I thought Frostbite with CoH would give -42% enemy res but according to PoB it's only giving -9%. Still the MH Effective DPS Mod is 1.44 vs your final (not min-maxed) build of 1.45, which is pretty close assuming that my Frost Bomb CWDT lands on the enemy boss. And that's without the boot enchant too!

Maybe the Ice Bite gem is overkill with freeze, should I switch out for Cold Pen?

Thanks so much for the feedback, I am really enjoying it and it's making me think hard about how to improve my char.
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RxJames wrote:
I am really enjoying it and it's making me think hard about how to improve my char.

Yep that's how great it feels to play it. :)

At the end, the guide details are how I min-maxed it. At some point, you'll have to choose what's best working for you.

Ex: you choosed to invest 4 points in movespeed in tree. I choosed to invest thoses 4 points into mana/flask nodes (+ belt mod). So I can sustain a Chemist's Quicksilver of Adrenaline with proper flask management. I also sustain a lot more diamond flask (more dps vs tough bosses) and I think I can use my life flask almost twice more times as you (= you could free up one life flask).

Maybe you could try self-cast Frostbomb > Duration > curse on hit > Frostability.

If you really want me to help you min-max it, you'll have to show me some footage of how you play the build.

Btw, TS+2 seems to start at 400C in SC http://poe.trade/search/unikokahuomako ?
Purenado Shot: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2050639
CycloPoet's PenFinder: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2123005
Last edited by Asymat on Jul 20, 2018, 12:11:09 PM
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Asymat wrote:

I recommend this build for mid to experimented players with good flasks management and currency grind abilities. Probably need 50C to level it and start it mapping.


Thanks for including this part. Build looks interesting but not for me I think. Not right now anyway. Thanks for writing a detailed guide!
Hey thanks for the guide, first time doing a tornado shot character. I'm having a bit of trouble on what I should do now. I seemed to have lost a lot of dps after getting a kaoms and dropping tabula and also switching out innervate, added lightning for the setup I have now. Did I switch too soon? I got a little confused on the guide further in. Wasn't sure if I should switch certain things or not. Could you take a look at my character and tell me what you recommend? I know my flasks aren't set up right, working on those. Also can't find a decent helm with a +2 enchant and the ones that are there are expensive as all hell right now.

Basically my question is what 5l setup should I be using in my lioneyes right now till I go crit? Also what should be in my gloves/boots. The gem part there gets pretty confusing. I play on hardcore incursion so I prefer survival above all else, but I'd like to have good damage to bring into late game maps as well.

Here is my character if you wouldn't mind taking a look.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Heartbound/characters

Go to Dream_On_Dreamer.

(Also should I be running blood rage yet, or wait till might of the meek to sustain better? I was using thiefs torment, but needed rare rings now.)

Also I think your path of building is out-dated because it doesn't match the final build skill tree. Also the item link set ups don't make sense. Maybe you just don't keep path of building one up to date? I'm just letting ya know in-case you didn't know.

Last edited by Heartbound on Jul 27, 2018, 10:25:43 AM
Thanks you, I can see I'm missing some info. I'll answer to you and update guide.

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Heartbound wrote:
Hey thanks for the guide, first time doing a tornado shot character. I'm having a bit of trouble on what I should do now. I seemed to have lost a lot of dps after getting a kaoms and dropping tabula and also switching out innervate, added lightning for the setup I have now. Did I switch too soon? I got a little confused on the guide further in. Wasn't sure if I should switch certain things or not. Could you take a look at my character and tell me what you recommend? I know my flasks aren't set up right, working on those. Also can't find a decent helm with a +2 enchant and the ones that are there are expensive as all hell right now.

Basically my question is what 5l setup should I be using in my lioneyes right now till I go crit? Also what should be in my gloves/boots. The gem part there gets pretty confusing. I play on hardcore incursion so I prefer survival above all else, but I'd like to have good damage to bring into late game maps as well.


It seems you did it good. Added Cold Damage looks definitely better than Cold Penetration until big abyss jewels. I cannot stress enough how abyss jewels are a big part of the deeps. And obviously uber lab + crit will up your dps considerably.
Here's what I've put in guide : Until you get enough abyss jewels, switch out Cold penetration for Added Cold Damage.

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Heartbound wrote:
(Also should I be running blood rage yet, or wait till might of the meek to sustain better? I was using thiefs torment, but needed rare rings now.)


Yes you should.

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Heartbound wrote:
Also I think your path of building is out-dated because it doesn't match the final build skill tree. Also the item link set ups don't make sense. Maybe you just don't keep path of building one up to date? I'm just letting ya know in-case you didn't know.


I've updated PoB links (shadows part was cutted out) and removed the tree link (get PoB guys -- it's awesome).
Purenado Shot: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2050639
CycloPoet's PenFinder: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2123005
Last edited by Asymat on Jul 31, 2018, 10:08:18 AM
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