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Democrats & Mormons. I have no way of knowing what % of protestants force tithing. Apparently you have done a study of the 30,000 plus protestant denominations and conclude it is less than 1%. Could you share this study please? Last edited by Kamchatka on Jan 16, 2018, 1:17:11 PM	Posted by Kamchatka on Jan 16, 2018, 1:16:25 PM Quote this Post
" Kamchatka wrote: Democrats & Mormons. I have no way of knowing what % of protestants force tithing. Apparently you have done a study of the 30,000 plus protestant denominations and conclude it is less than 1%. Could you share this study please? None force it. It is against scripture to force tithing. Protestants have free will to change parishes or denominations if they feel they are being forced to tithe. Spoiler Each one should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not out of regret or compulsion. For God loves a cheerful giver. http://biblehub.com/2_corinthians/9-7.htm https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/7-reasons-christians-not-required-to-tithe/	Posted by MBata on Jan 16, 2018, 1:23:29 PM Quote this Post
" MBata wrote: " Kamchatka wrote: Democrats & Mormons. I have no way of knowing what % of protestants force tithing. Apparently you have done a study of the 30,000 plus protestant denominations and conclude it is less than 1%. Could you share this study please? None force it. It is against scripture to force tithing. Protestants have free will to change parishes or denominations if they feel they are being forced to tithe. Spoiler Each one should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not out of regret or compulsion. For God loves a cheerful giver. http://biblehub.com/2_corinthians/9-7.htm https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/7-reasons-christians-not-required-to-tithe/ So you have done a study of the 30000 protestant denominations and none force tithing? May we see the study? And your own link about mormons proved that they force tithing. What does it matter if your neighbor is not aware of what her church teaches? Last edited by Kamchatka on Jan 16, 2018, 1:26:34 PM	Posted by Kamchatka on Jan 16, 2018, 1:25:28 PM Quote this Post
I already posted why it is irrelevant whether religious organizations mandate tithing. All I got in response was some stupid shit about tossing people in the ocean (I think it was a joke? but just came across as misinformed about... everything). Spoiler " CanHasPants wrote: " Kamchatka wrote: You're not following me; mormons (and some protestants) don't 'strongly recommend', they force you to tithe, or you're kicked out. Forced charity is not actually charity, it is the same as forced govt charity. There is a distinction you’re missing. Both organizations state up front, this is what we expect from you; however, one organization you are free to negotiate with, while the other will steal your real and personal property under threat of injury or imprisonment if you do not comply. My understanding, living in an area with a large Mormon population, is that religious tithes are not strictly interpreted as monetary contributions, but rather time or money. Here’s the interesting bit, however, most Mormons (that I know) do both, above what is asked of them; they are all, every single one of them, beneficiaries of a stable and self sufficient lifestyle that grants them plenty of excess. The reason? Because the church is very efficient at helping its members get back on their feet when they are down, and the resulting stability in the family structure is very efficient at supporting their elderly once they’ve aged beyond their ability to contribute. Why are we still having this conversation? Do you have any evidence that a significant portion of religious organizations coerce charitable donations under threat of punishment, or is this like one town of inbred failures in bumfuck nowhere is proof of systemic racism? What is your point? Devolving Wilds Land “T, Sacrifice Devolving Wilds: Search your library for a basic land card and reveal it. Then shuffle your library.” Last edited by CanHasPants on Jan 16, 2018, 3:16:21 PM	Posted by CanHasPants on Jan 16, 2018, 3:11:20 PM Quote this Post
" CanHasPants wrote: I already posted why it is irrelevant whether religious organizations mandate tithing. All I got in response was some stupid shit about tossing people in the ocean (I think it was a joke? but just came across as misinformed about... everything). I thought you disagree with throwing people in prison, I am giving you ALTERNATIVES. Fine, I will give you another alternative, you get to throw politicians into the ocean you don't agree with. You get to extort them into paying no taxes. Then again nobody might want to be one.	Posted by deathflower on Jan 16, 2018, 4:00:58 PM Quote this Post
" deathflower wrote: " CanHasPants wrote: I already posted why it is irrelevant whether religious organizations mandate tithing. All I got in response was some stupid shit about tossing people in the ocean (I think it was a joke? but just came across as misinformed about... everything). I thought you disagree with throwing people in prison, I am giving you ALTERNATIVES. When did I say that? Because I described the consequences for tax evasion in response to an absurd comparison to religious tithing? I was just spelling it out, as people seemed to be under the illusion of some sort of equivalency. Seriously, I still can’t tell if you’re trying to be funny... I’m going to feel bad if your posts were meant to be read with an ironic inflection. Devolving Wilds Land “T, Sacrifice Devolving Wilds: Search your library for a basic land card and reveal it. Then shuffle your library.”	Posted by CanHasPants on Jan 16, 2018, 4:38:53 PM Quote this Post
" Kamchatka wrote: -snip- And your own link about mormons proved that they force tithing. What does it matter if your neighbor is not aware of what her church teaches? She is more aware than you are. I can't prove a negative. I have supplied you with an example of scripture that clearly states that forcing tithing is against doctrine. I have spoken with people who are active in LDS and have said that tithing is not forced. What evidence do you present other than speculation?	Posted by MBata on Jan 16, 2018, 5:42:57 PM Quote this Post
" CanHasPants wrote: " deathflower wrote: " CanHasPants wrote: I already posted why it is irrelevant whether religious organizations mandate tithing. All I got in response was some stupid shit about tossing people in the ocean (I think it was a joke? but just came across as misinformed about... everything). I thought you disagree with throwing people in prison, I am giving you ALTERNATIVES. When did I say that? Because I described the consequences for tax evasion in response to an absurd comparison to religious tithing? I was just spelling it out, as people seemed to be under the illusion of some sort of equivalency. Seriously, I still can’t tell if you’re trying to be funny... I’m going to feel bad if your posts were meant to be read with an ironic inflection. Isn't the question how to handle false equivalency rather than the false equivalency?	Posted by deathflower on Jan 16, 2018, 8:28:51 PM Quote this Post
*Doctor Declares Trump’s Health Excellent, With Perfect Score on Cognitive Test* https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/16/us/politics/trump-health-exam-doctor-cognitive-test.html So much for that 'mentally unfit' rhetoric... Still in the alpha stage, but at least build diversity isn't an issue: https://wolcengame.com/home/	Posted by JNF on Jan 17, 2018, 1:28:21 AM Quote this Post
" JNF wrote: *Doctor Declares Trump’s Health Excellent, With Perfect Score on Cognitive Test* https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/16/us/politics/trump-health-exam-doctor-cognitive-test.html So much for that 'mentally unfit' rhetoric... Fake exam result Build of the week #9 - Breaking your face with style http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_EcQDOUN9Y IGN: Poltun	Posted by faerwin on Jan 17, 2018, 3:47:15 AM Alpha Member Quote this Post