ALL HAIL PRESIDENT TRUMP

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ScrotieMcB wrote:
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Aim_Deep wrote:
Hitler, Stalin, Mao basically all the greatest mass murderers in history are liberals.
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Aim_Deep wrote:
liberals


Progressives would be the closest term. Population Control politics would be the most precise term, but such was never adopted, even when U.S. progressives were pushing the eugenics movement that helped Adolf form his horrible plans. Adolf was another progressive, inspired to take "scientific" eugenics to new heights.

To sum up their modus operandi:

The elites know best, and others need to be jailed/killed if they don't comply, or if they aren't part of the plan by they who know best. Once you see the pattern, and understand it is the dominant part of the progressive ideology, it is easy to recognize progressives whether they disguise themselves as democrats, socialists, republicans, libertarians or whatever.

If the motive for terrible things is cloaked in "science" you can bet your last bitcoin that it is progressive. What people have been taught about "right" vs "left" and having a balance on the extremists is pure garbage. An extreme "right" wing/conservative ideology would go back to more and more primitive times - a monarchy, theocracy, city states, etc. Inventing new governmental structures - such as Fascism and Communism are products of progressive/futurist ideologies, where the past is obviously bad and the future obviously good.

The representative republic that the US operates as, is a product of both lines of thinking, as shown by the Constitution's deliberate plan for staggered and varied terms and bicameral structure of the legislative branch of government.

Mao was progressive. Lenin was progressive. Hitler was progressive.

They know best. Fall in line, or else.

PoE Origins - Piety's story http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2081910
Last edited by DalaiLama on Jul 22, 2018, 9:41:51 AM
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DalaiLama wrote:


Progressives would be the closest term. Population Control politics would be the most precise term, but such was never adopted, even when U.S. progressives were pushing the eugenics movement that helped Adolf form his horrible plans. Adolf was another progressive, inspired to take "scientific" eugenics to new heights.

To sum up their modus operandi:

The elites know best, and others need to be jailed/killed if they don't comply, or if they aren't part of the plan by they who know best. Once you see the pattern, and understand it is the dominant part of the progressive ideology, it is easy to recognize progressives whether they disguise themselves as democrats, socialists, republicans, libertarians or whatever.

If the motive for terrible things is cloaked in "science" you can bet your last bitcoin that it is progressive. What people have been taught about "right" vs "left" and having a balance on the extremists is pure garbage. An extreme "right" wing/conservative ideology would go back to more and more primitive times - a monarchy, theocracy, city states, etc. Inventing new governmental structures - such as Fascism and Communism are products of progressive/futurist ideologies, where the past is obviously bad and the future obviously good.

The representative republic that the US operates as, is a product of both lines of thinking, as shown by the Constitution's deliberate plan for staggered and varied terms and bicameral structure of the legislative branch of government.

Mao was progressive. Lenin was progressive. Hitler was progressive.

They know best. Fall in line, or else.



You should get more in touch with reality before posting.

Also
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DalaiLama wrote:
progressive


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You should get more in touch with reality before posting.

Do you have any links to support this ridiculous claim?
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This "conspiracy" has been confirmed yesterday. Funny how that happens.

Spoiler


GGG banning all political discussion shortly after getting acquired by China is a weird coincidence.
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CanHasPants wrote:
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You should get more in touch with reality before posting.

Do you have any links to support this ridiculous claim?

No, but I'm open to changing my mind about the suggestion.

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Xavderion wrote:
This "conspiracy" has been confirmed yesterday. Funny how that happens.

Spoiler



Who confirmed this? Trump is obviously not a credible source, so I doubt that article is saying some conspiracy exists just because Trump said so.
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CanHasPants wrote:
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You should get more in touch with reality before posting.

Do you have any links to support this ridiculous claim?

No, but I'm open to changing my mind about the suggestion.


"Hitler and his henchmen victimized an entire continent and exterminated millions in his quest for a co-called 'Master Race.'

But the concept of a white, blond-haired, blue-eyed master Nordic race didn't originate with Hitler. The idea was created in the United States, and cultivated in California, decades before Hitler came to power. California eugenicists played an important, although little known, role in the American eugenics movement's campaign for ethnic cleansing.

Eugenics was the racist pseudoscience determined to wipe away all human beings deemed "unfit," preserving only those who conformed to a Nordic stereotype. Elements of the philosophy were enshrined as national policy by forced sterilization and segregation laws, as well as marriage restrictions, enacted in twenty-seven states. In 1909, California became the third state to adopt such laws. Ultimately, eugenics practitioners coercively sterilized some 60,000 Americans, barred the marriage of thousands, forcibly segregated thousands in "colonies," and persecuted untold numbers in ways we are just learning. Before World War II, nearly half of coercive sterilizations were done in California, and even after the war, the state accounted for a third of all such surgeries.

California was considered an epicenter of the American eugenics movement. During the Twentieth Century's first decades, California's eugenicists included potent but little known race scientists, such as Army venereal disease specialist Dr. Paul Popenoe, citrus magnate and Polytechnic benefactor Paul Gosney, Sacramento banker Charles M. Goethe, as well as members of the California State Board of Charities and Corrections and the University of California Board of Regents.

Eugenics would have been so much bizarre parlor talk had it not been for extensive financing by corporate philanthropies, specifically the Carnegie Institution, the Rockefeller Foundation and the Harriman railroad fortune. They were all in league with some of America's most respected scientists hailing from such prestigious universities as Stamford, Yale, Harvard, and Princeton. These academicians espoused race theory and race science, and then faked and twisted data to serve eugenics' racist aims.

Stanford president David Starr Jordan originated the notion of "race and blood" in his 1902 racial epistle "Blood of a Nation," in which the university scholar declared that human qualities and conditions such as talent and poverty were passed through the blood.

In 1904, the Carnegie Institution established a laboratory complex at Cold Spring Harbor on Long Island that stockpiled millions of index cards on ordinary Americans, as researchers carefully plotted the removal of families, bloodlines and whole peoples. From Cold Spring Harbor, eugenics advocates agitated in the legislatures of America, as well as the nation's social service agencies and associations.

The Harriman railroad fortune paid local charities, such as the New York Bureau of Industries and Immigration, to seek out Jewish, Italian and other immigrants in New York and other crowded cities and subject them to deportation, trumped up confinement or forced sterilization.

The Rockefeller Foundation helped found the German eugenics program and even funded the program that Josef Mengele worked in before he went to Auschwitz. "

"Eighteen solutions were explored in a Carnegie-supported 1911 "Preliminary Report of the Committee of the Eugenic Section of the American Breeder's Association to Study and to Report on the Best Practical Means for Cutting Off the Defective Germ-Plasm in the Human Population." Point eight was euthanasia. The most commonly suggested method of eugenicide in America was a "lethal chamber" or public locally operated gas chambers. "

"Hitler even wrote a fan letter to American eugenic leader Madison Grant calling his race-based eugenics book, The Passing of the Great Race his 'bible.' "

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More progressivism from the US - somehow oddly aligned with what I just posted above:

"Margaret Sanger was so involved in the eugenic movement that she advanced their cause, even when doing so did not advance her own. She solicited their scholarly papers for her conferences; she asked them to testify in Congressional hearings. She not only supported eugenicists and what they stood for, she gathered them together to talk about eugenics and eugenic methods. Margaret Sanger was the “main organizer” of the First World Population Conference in Geneva. Though she kept a low profile in her involvement in this event, she was largely responsible for this “scientific population conference,” as she called it. By gathering together fellow eugenicists to talk about eugenics and to advance the cause, she was admitting how personally wrapped up she was in the movement.

As a eugenicist, Margaret Sanger had many eugenicist friends whom she influenced and by whom she was influenced. History books on Margaret Sanger often include a list of Sanger’s eugenicist friends for reference. Sanger associated with “Eugene Debs, Theodore Schroeder, Alexander Berkman, John Reed, Emma Goldman, and Henrietta Rodman.

Virtually all of her Socialist friends, lovers, and comrades were committed eugenicists from the followers of Lenin in Revolutionary Socialism, like H.G. Wells, George Bernard Shaw, and Julius Hammer, to the followers of Hitler in National Socialism, like Ernest Rudin, Leon Whitney, and Harry Laughlin.” Her professional associations mirrored her private and social ones. Virtually all of [the American Birth Control League’s] board members were eugenicists. She asked Henry Fairchild, the head of the American Eugenics Society, to be on her clinic’s advisory board. She sought eugenicists out, she was not simply influenced by them.

Margaret Sanger’s most notable eugenicist friend was Havelock Ellis. Ellis was an important mentor of Sanger’s. As her friend and lover, Ellis taught Sanger about eugenics and the goals eugenicists strove for. He wrote the preface to her book, Woman and the New Race. “Her mentor and lover, Havelock Ellis, was the beloved disciple of Francis Galton, who first systemized and popularized eugenic thought.” Sanger referenced Galton himself in “The Pivot of Civilization,” and included his more biased definition of eugenics—“the rational breeding of human beings”—alongside her own."

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Are you starting to see the pattern?

"population control" was never about saving the planet. It's always been about a group of people who consider themselves better trying to eliminate "inferior" peoples. It in no way shape or form involved enforcing immigration laws or building a wall. It involved force sterilization of women because they had a high libido, or abnormally shaped genitals. It involved feeding milk laced with Tuberculin to people because the "stronger" ones would survive. It even involved a progressive Chief Supreme Court justice - Oliver Wendell Holmes, who wrote:

"It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind…. Three generations of imbeciles are enough."

Progressives love to make Great Leaps Forward and have Five Year Plans. They love to reshape society and get rid of those old broken social structures. Why? Because they have a master plan that will save the world, even if it involves killing off a large percentage of the people.

Look at the news and ask yourself which side the media is calling for violence against? Which side routinely advocates that their opponents be physically attacked and/or actually killed?

It certainly wasn't a republican that went to a baseball game and shot up a bunch of democrat congressmen.

One side is willing to kill the other side to get their way.

And THAT is why conservatives do not trust progressives and their feel good agenda.

PoE Origins - Piety's story http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2081910
Last edited by DalaiLama on Jul 22, 2018, 4:31:24 PM
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ScrotieMcB wrote:
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Aim_Deep wrote:
Hitler, Stalin, Mao basically all the greatest mass murderers in history are liberals.
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Aim_Deep wrote:
liberals


I know exactly what it meant and means now. They ripped off classical liberals identity even. Yes fascists through and through.
Git R Dun!
Last edited by Aim_Deep on Jul 23, 2018, 12:28:58 AM
Committing atrocities in the name of progress is just a cop-out. The very same thing can (and is) being done in the name of traditionalism. The US civil war is probably the easiest and closest (proximity) example I can give.

As such, if both side can commit extremes atrocities, then maybe one's position in regard to progressivism/traditionalism isn't the right thing to look at for the cause of those atrocities.



Instead, look at their perception of others. Those that view humans (or those viewed as inferior) as objects/pawns that can be sacrificed are the ones that are most likely to commit such atrocities.

This is THE common factor that every leader that perpetuated atrocities have in common. They get so far removed from their own population (or in some rare case, so indoctrinated in their own belief) that they don't care about the rabble.

You can go and look at ANY warmonger in history and they ALL share that trait. Some do not have it for their own people but at the very least, they ALL have it for "the rest".
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US civil war had little to do with tribalism or slaves. You think white people of that era would kill 700,000 of themselves for blacks? I think not. US civil war was about state rights as opposed to federalism.


Basically Federalism vs confederalism.
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Xavderion wrote:
Calling Hitler a liberal lmao

Socially, he was as authoritarian as one could be. Fiscally, he was basically a racist Trump (inb4 redundant huehuehue).


Hilter had national heath care

Hitler had kindergeld which is welfare

Hitler sized guns from individuals like dems.

Hilter had a command economy

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Just like the rest of the left - hitler was a statist instead of individualist meaning state supremacy instead of individual liberty and god given rights to them

History somehow painted him right and it's the furthest thing from truth. The right loves jews. Probably too much IMO at the expense of Arabs right to self determination.

Git R Dun!
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