Path of Building accuracy???

Finally caved and downloaded it. Decided the first thing I'd do is test its accuracy.

And of course, it's immediately driving me crazy.

I imported my character, included everything. It has my Unbuffed DPS pretty close. It says 78158.4 although it's actually 78375.84. That's fine, that's close.

Then I go into Buffed. It says 117467 when I'm actually 117207.12. Ok.

Ok, now... FROM HERE, this is where it gets wrong.

What's Remaining:

Elemental Overload: 1.4
Flame Surge: 1.5
Deceiver: 1.1

Penetration: 108
(Discord 25, Scorching 24, Gem 37, Flamm 22 (rounded down from 22.88))

Rounding the base down to 117207, this should get me to 270748.17 before Penetration.

As for Pen, I like to assume my target is a Boss with 75% total resistances. This is why Flamm is providing 22 Pen, as I have 30% increased Curse effect as well.

This means the Penetration step is giving me a final 1.33 modifier, which should total 360095.0661 DPS.

However, Path of Building is shorting me to 306669.9 DPS. And I cannot figure out why.

All of the things I've mentioned above are checked in one place or another in the Configuration section.

So yeah, dunno. But now I automatically do not trust this program's accuracy.

Yes, it's terrible, it shows 245k dps for my RF character, while ingame tooltip shows 0. How can you be off so much, come on, PoB, get a grip!

Is this a jab at in-game tooltips??? lol.

In-game tooltips are 100% accurate. There are only specific cases where the tooltip won't show you something (usually cast/attack speed), and all you have to do is plug it in.

I do my own math manually. I check with PoE's in-game to double check my work. If it's not on the bullseye, I find it's within 99.9%, and I wonder if I missed a tiny "8% increased damage" modifier somewhere.

PoB's results, however, are not checking out.

So, yes. Your sarcasm turns out to be reality.

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ShadyC wrote:

In-game tooltips are 100% accurate.

That's the funniest thing I've read today. :)

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Shovelcut wrote:

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ShadyC wrote:

In-game tooltips are 100% accurate.

That's the funniest thing I've read today. :)

Nice quip. Really clever.

But can you show me an in-game tooltip being inaccurate?

I'll wait.

Be sure to get more quips in instead of presenting the evidence to me.

Pick a skill, it's not accurate. If it was, Path of Building wouldn't even be a thing. It would just be yet another offline passive planner.

I mean, it's pretty common knowledge that the tooltips aren't even close to accurate. Puncture traps, firestorm, minions, anything triggered, the list goes on and on and on...

If you wanted serious answers and not "quips" then you should have provided an actual link to the PoB build so that people could explain the calculations to you. But of course you don't want actual advice, you just want to rant... so pointless thread gets pointless answers.

i very much trust the calculations of pob over your calculations assuming how its calculated, assuming how much res mob has and all that type of thing.

yes, tooltips are severely inaccurate and do not take into account so many damn things - that is why pob exists. either way, having the most accurate number isn't going to help you. as long as its calculated the same its used for comparison and nothing else, really.

i could calculate dps completely wrong and say i have 18m dps. but if i use your build and calculated the dps the same way the comparison is still valid.

The thread for PoB is right "next door" in the same forum section, which is 200 pages long. The creator himself is there to listen to feedback.

If you selected "Standard Boss" or "Shaper/Guardian" in PoB, then take note that curses in PoE have reduced effectiveness against bosses and this has been taken care of by PoB.

If you want to include Deceiver into the calculation, then check on "Is the enemy intimidated?" checkbox.

The list goes on.

Once you play dual-wield with skills that only use the main-hand such as Sunder, you will notice immediately how inaccurate is the tooltip currently in PoE. Take out the offhand stat stick, the tooltip shoots up despite the damage and attack speed bonuses to dual wielding. Or easier just link a Ruthless gem to your attack skill. Try it in the game and see for yourself.