The Illusion of Choice

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Inkarnit wrote:
You are actually patently false on many of your assessments.

I play a build that is level 71 with only 2700 HP. Very few HP nodes. And I do just fine.

I took the blood magic keystone rather than using blood magic gems so only use a few auras with set costs.

Templar makes a fine summoner.

Melee has some issues as a whole right now, but templar or shadow can melee just fine too, not to mention duelist.

Witch or shadow make great casters as well as templar.

Armor and evasion are NOT useless. I play a ranger with about 7000 armor and the damage reduction is GREATLY appreciated. I haven't played evasion to comment there.

I do just fine tanking with my only 2700 HP and 7000 armor due to my great life on hit AOE ability. I don't even use granite flask even though I have one.

My gear isn't the greatest but does great with only 1 piece being 5L and the rest as 4L. I run with maxed resist on cold, but only about 60% on fire and lightning and -48% on chaos and have no problems. For maps I can swap things out to adjust this as needed.

So... troll harder next time please.





Mind posting a link to your build? I have a 69 duelist and he has like 20-25 life nodes and only has like 2,500 HP with pretty much every piece of my gear having + life greater than 40 on it and having like 250 strength.

I call bullshit.
Well, congrats for figuring this game out. You win. Now if you have any suggestions concerning balancing, I'm sure GGG would like to hear them.
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/193062
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funshynebare wrote:
The more I keep playing, the more I keep realizing this game doesn't have many choices. It's exactly like Diablo 2 in regards to stats. Get enough dex/str/int to use your gear/skills, then stack HP.

Every build should revolve around getting as much max HP % nodes as possible.
Every build should link blood magic to their skills and use their mana for auras.
Want to play a summoner, roll witch.
Want to play melee, roll marauder.
Want to play a caster, roll templar.

The only exception to these is a shadow, and that's only good for EK.

As for armor/evasion, they are 100% not useful.
If you want to evade attacks, get a flame totem/GMP/blind. Or use spell totem/skeles/blind.
If you want to tank, get 7 endurance charges, enfeeble, granite flask. You now have 90% damage reduction without a single point of armor.


As for gear, you want: sockets, links, hp, resists, IR, IQ.
As for weapon, everything is tied to either spell damage or physical damage % increase.

All the damage talent nodes aren't useful compared to HP/Resists nodes, as the amount of points needed to invest in order to reduce TTK hits by at least 2 is more than you should want to spend.

If you don't follow these guidelines, the moment you hit end-game you will be struggling. If you did, then you'll be face rolling.

For a game that was hailed for its uniqueness and choices, there really aren't that many.


Have one of my chars with a build like this

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMABLMFQgVbDH0QfxEtES8RUBRNFr8c3CepLJwspi0fLUcy0TdmN4M74UGWRKtFR0bXSVFQQlWuVytdxl3yYG1h4m0ZcFJw1XWKfIN-WX_GghCDOIfbiEKLeouMjDaOvo-mkyeZmp2AogCiLqKjpuunK6dcrrO0OLUEtve4k7vWwFHBxcHzw23Gns361U_d895337Dhc-L35Rnquutj7BjtIPId8-r79Q==

To dethrone your reckless statements that clearly not coming from expierience,but dwelling with the forum trolls,i can pretty say every build can be viable,even this one you see here with little defences.

Even a point if you have different from me,then your build is different,maybe the structure might be the same,but it is different.And thats where the other game failed.

So i have this witch and is not a summoner :O your point now OP?You can fail trolling miserably,thats all i can say
Bye bye desync!
Last edited by elwindakos#7380 on Feb 25, 2013, 2:10:21 PM
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elwindakos wrote:
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funshynebare wrote:
The more I keep playing, the more I keep realizing this game doesn't have many choices. It's exactly like Diablo 2 in regards to stats. Get enough dex/str/int to use your gear/skills, then stack HP.

Every build should revolve around getting as much max HP % nodes as possible.
Every build should link blood magic to their skills and use their mana for auras.
Want to play a summoner, roll witch.
Want to play melee, roll marauder.
Want to play a caster, roll templar.

The only exception to these is a shadow, and that's only good for EK.

As for armor/evasion, they are 100% not useful.
If you want to evade attacks, get a flame totem/GMP/blind. Or use spell totem/skeles/blind.
If you want to tank, get 7 endurance charges, enfeeble, granite flask. You now have 90% damage reduction without a single point of armor.


As for gear, you want: sockets, links, hp, resists, IR, IQ.
As for weapon, everything is tied to either spell damage or physical damage % increase.

All the damage talent nodes aren't useful compared to HP/Resists nodes, as the amount of points needed to invest in order to reduce TTK hits by at least 2 is more than you should want to spend.

If you don't follow these guidelines, the moment you hit end-game you will be struggling. If you did, then you'll be face rolling.

For a game that was hailed for its uniqueness and choices, there really aren't that many.


Have one of my chars with a build like this

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMABLMFQgVbDH0QfxEtES8RUBRNFr8c3CepLJwspi0fLUcy0TdmN4M74UGWRKtFR0bXSVFQQlWuVytdxl3yYG1h4m0ZcFJw1XWKfIN-WX_GghCDOIfbiEKLeouMjDaOvo-mkyeZmp2AogCiLqKjpuunK6dcrrO0OLUEtve4k7vWwFHBxcHzw23Gns361U_d895337Dhc-L35Rnquutj7BjtIPId8-r79Q==

To dethrone your reckless statements that clearly not coming from expierience,but dwelling with the forum trolls,i can pretty say every build can be viable,even this one you see here with little defences.

Even a point if you have different from me,then your build is different,maybe the structure might be the same,but it is different.And thats where the other game failed.

So i have this witch and is not a summoner :O your point now OP?You can fail trolling miserably,thats all i can say


Gonna double up on that incredibly false statement:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYAB2MI9A2NFVAc3CL0Jwso-iqYLEYtRzvhPL1EBEZxSOdNuVBCVytakWqsaxdr22wLbRlzU3kDfRiCx4Vgi3qPRpMnlSCboacIpyuofarEtAy4k7-XwFTJPcy80NDT-9kL2t3ed-L35oHr7uyK8h731_qA-wn-SQ==

Shadow Summoner! And killing with the best of them!

EDIT: Bow Marauder: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/80909

So yeah...welcome to Fail City. Population: You.
Last edited by Faction3#7366 on Feb 25, 2013, 2:15:34 PM
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Windays wrote:
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Inkarnit wrote:
You are actually patently false on many of your assessments.

I play a build that is level 71 with only 2700 HP. Very few HP nodes. And I do just fine.

I took the blood magic keystone rather than using blood magic gems so only use a few auras with set costs.

Templar makes a fine summoner.

Melee has some issues as a whole right now, but templar or shadow can melee just fine too, not to mention duelist.

Witch or shadow make great casters as well as templar.

Armor and evasion are NOT useless. I play a ranger with about 7000 armor and the damage reduction is GREATLY appreciated. I haven't played evasion to comment there.

I do just fine tanking with my only 2700 HP and 7000 armor due to my great life on hit AOE ability. I don't even use granite flask even though I have one.

My gear isn't the greatest but does great with only 1 piece being 5L and the rest as 4L. I run with maxed resist on cold, but only about 60% on fire and lightning and -48% on chaos and have no problems. For maps I can swap things out to adjust this as needed.

So... troll harder next time please.





Mind posting a link to your build? I have a 69 duelist and he has like 20-25 life nodes and only has like 2,500 HP with pretty much every piece of my gear having + life greater than 40 on it and having like 250 strength.

I call bullshit.


Call bullshit all you want.

Passive skill tree build

And here's my gear, which is absolutely mediocre:

Last edited by Inkarnit#3780 on Feb 25, 2013, 2:15:33 PM
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funshynebare wrote:
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elwindakos wrote:


Have one of my chars with a build like this

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMABLMFQgVbDH0QfxEtES8RUBRNFr8c3CepLJwspi0fLUcy0TdmN4M74UGWRKtFR0bXSVFQQlWuVytdxl3yYG1h4m0ZcFJw1XWKfIN-WX_GghCDOIfbiEKLeouMjDaOvo-mkyeZmp2AogCiLqKjpuunK6dcrrO0OLUEtve4k7vWwFHBxcHzw23Gns361U_d895337Dhc-L35Rnquutj7BjtIPId8-r79Q==

To dethrone your reckless statements that clearly not coming from expierience,but dwelling with the forum trolls,i can pretty say every build can be viable,even this one you see here with little defences.

Even a point if you have different from me,then your build is different,maybe the structure might be the same,but it is different.And thats where the other game failed.

So i have this witch and is not a summoner :O your point now OP?You can fail trolling miserably,thats all i can say



My point? Want to play a caster, roll Templar/Shadow as I said.
But instead you played a witch and worked your way over to those starting trees. Congrats? So...how did you prove me wrong?

I also didn't even go into mob difficulty in my main post, how mob AI isn't challenging, that playing ranged is 100x easier than melee due to TTK being faster, etc.

None of what I said was a troll. It's fact. You can claim whatever you want. Fact is that as long as you have 4L gear as ranged, you can do whatever you want in this game.

As for min/maxing, the choices are very...bland. There is no next tier that opens doors. There's just what I listed.




Last edited by funshynebare#2742 on Feb 25, 2013, 2:19:16 PM
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pneuma wrote:
It wasn't like this in the past.
It won't be like this in the future.
Spoiler
Beta.


I also use a Shadow Summoner, and do perfectly fine. With little over 20 deaths and already in act 3 merc. I use This build and I do just fine. Its not hard to do what you want and be viable. Maybe if you think outside the box, you'll one day be as good as the other theorycrafters.
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Sometimes, we have to cross a ditch.
Sometimes, we have to cross an ocean.-Rhys, GGG
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Last edited by funshynebare#2742 on Feb 25, 2013, 2:18:49 PM
Lol stop with the "its beta" crap.

Open beta is an advertising period to get players hooked on the game and generate income while producing content. And just so we are clear, content means levels and story NOT skill tree design and balance. Minor changes may be made but the fundamental design, along with all its flaws will remain intact all the way to release.

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