SSF + Party?

I've mentioned this before, and I'm a big advocate for this as I want to play and chat with friends, while achieving and looting everything myself. One way you could do this is locking drops to characters and not allowing trading. The only remaining issue would be carries, I have no idea how to prevent that.

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seanxjohnson wrote:

I've mentioned this before, and I'm a big advocate for this as I want to play and chat with friends, while achieving and looting everything myself. One way you could do this is locking drops to characters and not allowing trading. The only remaining issue would be carries, I have no idea how to prevent that.

why not do exactly what you say in normal leagues?

nothing is stoping you

just refuse to be carried and dont trade

It makes no sense as a suggestion.

I don't get why so many people ask for "Solo Self Found, but with grouping and/or trading with friends!"

When you can just literally do that in regular non SSF. Just don't fucking trade/party with rando's. Just like I did when I was playing SSF before they implemented SSF.

"But why did they add SSF as a separate league then? If you could just play like that anyway?" I hear you cry. Well, the answer is simple. Leaderboards.

Yes, literally the only reason why SSF exists as a separate league, is to have a specific leaderboard to show off people whom do everything literally unassisted.

It's why "SSF but not" is pointless, since leaderboards for it are worthless because you can just get carried through a ton of stuff and/or trade for things that other people farm for you, meaning it's no different to regular leagues outside of the fact that Streamers would get access to everything and average Joe who just parties with friends every now and then but is otherwise SSF won't see much more than an actual SSF player.

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Tarille wrote:

"But why did they add SSF as a separate league then? If you could just play like that anyway?" I hear you cry. Well, the answer is simple. Leaderboards.

Yes, literally the only reason why SSF exists as a separate league, is to have a specific leaderboard to show off people whom do everything literally unassisted.

I will point out that there is an added perk to playing SSF which perhaps wasn't one of the main reasons for adding it. I can clear my stash in SSF by migrating it all to Standard at will. That bridges the gap between League play and Standard play nicely. It gives me control over when I reset.

Yes... you could do the same in Standard, but it would require hours of tedious work.

So it's a perk more than a feature.

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k1rage wrote:

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seanxjohnson wrote:

I've mentioned this before, and I'm a big advocate for this as I want to play and chat with friends, while achieving and looting everything myself. One way you could do this is locking drops to characters and not allowing trading. The only remaining issue would be carries, I have no idea how to prevent that.

why not do exactly what you say in normal leagues?

nothing is stoping you

just refuse to be carried and dont trade

I play league SC as well and if I treated it as SSF I would fall behind my friends. I like the separation, I have SSF as my DIY go at your own pace and league SC where I can grind to end game with friends in a matter of days.

Yeah ok.. I will play normal mode then with my own restrictions. I lack antisocial skills to have fun in solo mode. Screw leaderboards.

I really enjoy the way it is atm.

However, a SSF league with min 2 and max 6 players should be fun for friends or more hardcore guild. 6 because you can't be more than 6 in a party (and you are supposed to play together).

It will require a specific leaderboard for the best 2 men party, 3 men party, ..., 6 men party and some limitations :

- once you start the league with someone, you are stuck with him for this league. If you want to do this league with another teammate you have to start over this league (artisan/stash/map progression removed). This will require a delete character AND progression mechanism.

- you can transfer your progression from lower number self found league to the highest one by adding a member* to your crew (even SSF progression to 6 men self found league) but you can never do the opposite (from 3 to 2 for example). That means that if one of your teammate stops playing, your odds to be among the best in the leaderboard are seriously compromised.
* this member should be a Solo SF league player or a player not involved in any other self found league (in this case, he starts from scratch).

Not gonna happen. I dont like partying in this game anyway. For me these kinds of games are meant to play solo.

+1

I would love to see SSF + partying. I like helping out my friends/family, but I still want to be SSF.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

I will point out that there is an added perk to playing SSF which perhaps wasn't one of the main reasons for adding it. I can clear my stash in SSF by migrating it all to Standard at will. That bridges the gap between League play and Standard play nicely. It gives me control over when I reset.

Yes... you could do the same in Standard, but it would require hours of tedious work.

So it's a perk more than a feature.

Oh man, I don't know why I never realized this. Standard is almost literally unplayable -- and no I'm not being mean. Opening my stash has a multiple second lag, and crashes the client often enough to be very annoying.

Cleaning up stash would take weeks. And those weeks would be filled with client crashes just to make it that much more fun.

There is hope for a permanent league again. (I used to enjoy both league play and non-league play until stash became too unwieldy).