[3.2] [HC-SC] Essence Drecay GMP with 11-12 Charges [Trickster] [MoM + High Dodge to HC]

I made changes to the PoB files to put the new ED and Decay values to see if this build would still be feasible. I reduced all Decay values by 50% at all levels and increased ED by 25% at all levels.

Essence Drain damage:
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levels = {
[1] = { 12, 9, 26.73, 6, 9, },
[2] = { 15, 10, 34.56, 8, 12, },
[3] = { 19, 11, 47.60, 11, 16, },
[4] = { 23, 12, 64.31, 15, 22, },
[5] = { 27, 13, 85.60, 20, 30, },
[6] = { 31, 14, 112.56, 26, 39, },
[7] = { 35, 16, 146.62, 34, 51, },
[8] = { 38, 16, 177.81, 41, 61, },
[9] = { 41, 17, 214.78, 49, 74, },
[10] = { 44, 18, 258.53, 60, 89, },
[11] = { 47, 19, 310.25, 71, 107, },
[12] = { 50, 20, 371.25, 86, 128, },
[13] = { 53, 21, 443.12, 102, 153, },
[14] = { 56, 22, 552.73, 122, 182, },
[15] = { 59, 23, 627.14, 144, 217, },
[16] = { 62, 24, 743.89, 171, 257, },
[17] = { 64, 24, 832.75, 192, 288, },
[18] = { 66, 25, 931.53, 215, 322, },
[19] = { 68, 26, 1041.31, 240, 360, },
[20] = { 70, 27, 1163.25, 268, 402, },
[21] = { 72, 28, 1298.66, 299, 449, },
[22] = { 74, 29, 1448.95, 334, 501, },
[23] = { 76, 29, 1615.73, 372, 558, },
[24] = { 78, 30, 1800.73, 415, 622, },
[25] = { 80, 30, 2005.85, 462, 693, },
[26] = { 82, 31, 2233.23, 515, 772, },
[27] = { 84, 32, 2485.2, 573, 859, },
[28] = { 86, 33, 2764.37, 637, 955, },
[29] = { 88, 33, 3073.54, 708, 1062, },
[30] = { 90, 34, 3415.85, 787, 1181, },


Decay:
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levels = {
[1] = { 38, 97.5, },
[2] = { 40, 111.5, },
[3] = { 42, 127.5, },
[4] = { 44, 145.5, },
[5] = { 46, 165.5, },
[6] = { 48, 188.5, },
[7] = { 50, 214, },
[8] = { 52, 243, },
[9] = { 54, 275.5, },
[10] = { 56, 312.5, },
[11] = { 58, 353.5, },
[12] = { 60, 399.5, },
[13] = { 62, 451.5, },
[14] = { 64, 509.5, },
[15] = { 65, 541.5, },
[16] = { 66, 575, },
[17] = { 67, 610.5, },
[18] = { 68, 648, },
[19] = { 69, 688, },
[20] = { 70, 730, },
[21] = { 72, 822, },
[22] = { 74, 925, },
[23] = { 76, 1040, },
[24] = { 78, 1169, },
[25] = { 80, 1313, },
[26] = { 82, 1474.5, },
[27] = { 84, 1654.5, },
[28] = { 86, 1856, },
[29] = { 88, 2081, },
[30] = { 90, 2332.5, },

The results were not so bad, compared to the old Decay. Using Decay + ED + GMP + Pierce I thought the damage would drop to 15k or a little less.

Before ED + Decay + GMP + Pierce was 20,7K dps.

Now is 17,4k dps. Around 15% less damage



I think it's still viable, but Ball Lightning + Decay is certainly dead.

I did not update the damage on the hit, but if they increase the damage by 25% on the hit, the final damage is a little bigger, using The Consuming Dark with a higher hit, the poison damage will be higher as well.
Guides made by me:
Unnamed's CoC CI Discharge Trickster, Tankster BV MoM Poison, Saboquisitor MoM Pure Cold damage with Hrimburn, Trickster Critical Flameblast
Last edited by Carrasco_Santo on Jun 25, 2017, 12:54:47 PM
Poison damage is literally negligibile in 3.0 if you don't make heavy investments on it (and to be honest, with Essence Drain the poison is pretty bad even if you invest HEAVILY into it), you can replace Consuming Dark with a Decay dagger, since its damage will be very close to the one of the support gem after the nerf, and this will free a support gem slot in the ED setup, so you can use Efficacy as the 5th link and Empower as the 6th.
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djnat wrote:
Poison damage is literally negligibile in 3.0 if you don't make heavy investments on it (and to be honest, with Essence Drain the poison is pretty bad even if you invest HEAVILY into it), you can replace Consuming Dark with a Decay dagger, since its damage will be very close to the one of the support gem after the nerf, and this will free a support gem slot in the ED setup, so you can use Efficacy as the 5th link and Empower as the 6th.

You're right, by the tests I did in PoB, after this nerf Decay support gem will only be useful until you get a weapon with decay using Essence of Delirium, releasing 1 slot in both 4L and 6L to use another gem. But it looks like it's still going to be reasonably useful until you get this.
Guides made by me:
Unnamed's CoC CI Discharge Trickster, Tankster BV MoM Poison, Saboquisitor MoM Pure Cold damage with Hrimburn, Trickster Critical Flameblast
My first character after wipe will be this build.

With the changes in the pierce mechanics this build can be viable again, same with decay nerf.

The passive tree and the pierce gem now has a mod with inherent pierce, but limited by the number of enemies that each projectile can pierce.



The passive tree provide 3. Probably Poacher's Aim unique jewel is 1 or 2.

With 4 or 5 is enough to clear packs. 5 projectiles x 4 or 5 enemies = 20-25 enemies.

With this no need use pierce gem, then use in 4L Ed + decay + gmp + void manipulation, increasing the damage of Ed and decay

The end game gear will be a weapon with decay mod, then the 4L will be Ed + gmp + void manipulation + rapid decay or efficacy
Guides made by me:
Unnamed's CoC CI Discharge Trickster, Tankster BV MoM Poison, Saboquisitor MoM Pure Cold damage with Hrimburn, Trickster Critical Flameblast
Last edited by Carrasco_Santo on Jul 4, 2017, 10:10:49 AM
This build is working fine, I think the damage level in 4L is same as the previous one. Void Manipulation affecting the nerfed Decay (50% less) and the buffed Essence Drain (25% more) gives me the impression of having the same damage as before, maybe even a little bigger.

Certainly the changes in pierce was a buff for this build. In my opinion it is working very well. I only took the +3 from the tree and the projectiles go through 4 targets (the initial + 3). It is killing the packs well and if it is not enough, just repeat it again.

Level 42 for now, as I progress I put more information.
Guides made by me:
Unnamed's CoC CI Discharge Trickster, Tankster BV MoM Poison, Saboquisitor MoM Pure Cold damage with Hrimburn, Trickster Critical Flameblast
Playing softcore, all acts clear, Level 65, 3k life, 0 deaths. Tonight I'll start the maps. This build is very strong and it will get very tank. I currently have MoM + Acrobatics + Cloak of Flame + Arctic Armour. The next 4 points I will invest until Phase Acrobatics. Hardcore viable. :P
Guides made by me:
Unnamed's CoC CI Discharge Trickster, Tankster BV MoM Poison, Saboquisitor MoM Pure Cold damage with Hrimburn, Trickster Critical Flameblast
Last edited by Carrasco_Santo on Jul 6, 2017, 8:45:02 AM
Lvl 50 in beta, build feels good so far. What do you suggest for ascendancy order? Also what do think of Binos kitchen knife for this build? I had one drop early game.
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RaPsKa wrote:
Lvl 50 in beta, build feels good so far. What do you suggest for ascendancy order? Also what do think of Binos kitchen knife for this build? I had one drop early game.

Weaver the Arcane for first Ascendancy. After Patiente Reaper. It is a good item, but I'm using Heartbreaker and it is very good. Affect only Essence Drain (spell damage) but worth it. The Culling Strike for Spells helps a lot. I will use this until a dagger with Decay, a Sai for increase my survival.
Guides made by me:
Unnamed's CoC CI Discharge Trickster, Tankster BV MoM Poison, Saboquisitor MoM Pure Cold damage with Hrimburn, Trickster Critical Flameblast
Last edited by Carrasco_Santo on Jul 8, 2017, 7:27:12 PM
So you don't use Contagion?
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deadmeat9 wrote:
So you don't use Contagion?

I dont. This build I'm using gmp + pierce (in the tree) to kill the packs, this build has several advantages, like the easy playstyle. But ED + contagion has one advantage: it works very efficiently when many enemies appear at once (aka breach). So if you open a breach be careful, wither totem is essential not to lose control.
Guides made by me:
Unnamed's CoC CI Discharge Trickster, Tankster BV MoM Poison, Saboquisitor MoM Pure Cold damage with Hrimburn, Trickster Critical Flameblast
Last edited by Carrasco_Santo on Jul 9, 2017, 9:15:26 AM

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