Why are claws much better than daggers now?

Why in gods name does he always sign his posts? I don't get it.

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Krayken wrote:

1. wrong, look at the tree again, claws passives are definitely better
2. wrong, howa and scourge are far better than bino's. Even Mortem Morsu is better.
3. Care to explain? Because of the 30% crit multi implicit? Claws having more crit multi on the tree and a far better implicit than 30% multi.

1 and 3 were well answered by viper's post.

I'll explain 2.

First, HoWA is not generic. These builds rarely touch the claw nodes, if at all. I would not call a build with HoWA a claw build. It's in its own category.

As for scourge, if it's going to be crit and poison it more or less has to be assassin. I wouldn't really call scourge generic because it can't be used as a substitute for a crit rare claw in any build, yet is BiS for a specific build.

As for mortem, it is only good because it has 100% poison on hit. With the right gear and passives bino beats its damage output easily. That is, once you approach 100% poison binos becomes superior.

Daggers don't have better uniques, just better generic ones. Generic being something that can stand in for a good rare until such an item is obtained.

With daggers you're trading base dps and sustain for higher crit and end damage output from multiplier, as well as inherent poison.

Claws have not been made outright better than Daggers they just finally compete with Daggers as an option for your builds now. Theres still going to be places where a Dagger is going to be used over a claw and vise versa. This is a good thing considering for the longest time before this past patch Claws were pretty much never used with the exception of a couple unique ones already named.

You can still pull more crit out of a good dagger compared to a Claw because of the implicit alone. And claws can not roll any spell mods either so daggers will still be the go to for fast moving casters and CWC/COC setups. Theres finally an option between the two how on earth can that be a bad thing? Theres certainly not one clearly outshining the other either.. Not like in the past where it was Dagger or bust.

Now when you lvl a fresh build in a league you can plan it to go either Claw or Dagger later and go with whichever you end up finding a better weapon of. Which is nice as well now. Claws needed the buff they got. They were in a pretty bad place for a very long time.

personally I think the balance between the 2 is rly good now. Might be fractionally weighted towards claws buts its small, Im happy using either base now where claws just felt bad before. If it had to be weighted slightly one way Im glad its to claws not daggers because Ive been using daggers for melee since melee splash was added and have had very little reason to use a claw in all those years.

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DamageIncorporated wrote:

Why in gods name does he always sign his posts? I don't get it.

he suffers from the same condition as someone else on these forms: extreme narcissism

GGG will always be tweaking different classes of weapons with the intent of spurring us to create new builds around the weapon that has been buffed for the current challenge league. So for Legacy League claws have been buffed up over daggers. Next League it will be another class of weapon. The main attraction of PoE over other arpgs is the diversity of builds and also that there is no class bound gear. Why the OP thinks everything should be identical in offensive power is wrong. If all weapon classes were the same in terms of damage then long term playing would become boring and more would quit.

Because GGG doesnt know/ Doesnt want balance

Its either X is OP and Y is shit or X is shit and Y is OP

its easier for them to have a controled imbalance than trying to achieve a real balance

sadly a real balance wouldnt result in such a shit economy like we have atm

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Krayken wrote:

Better range
Better implicit (leech)
Better passives
Reach higher pdps with the same affixes
Reach higher APS
Easier to craft

Why are they superior in literally every facets now?

Because GGG nerfed dagger's nodes again and again, and now they're shit. And daggers were good only because they has superior DPS nodes, otherwise claws or swords are much better.