Why are claws much better than daggers now?

Better range
Better implicit (leech)
Better passives
Reach higher pdps with the same affixes
Reach higher APS
Easier to craft

Why are they superior in literally every facets now?
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Because GGG did their job?

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Boem wrote:
Because GGG did their job?

Peace,

-Boem-


By buffing claws to the point that it's now the daggers that are obsolete?
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Krayken wrote:
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Boem wrote:
Because GGG did their job?

Peace,

-Boem-


By buffing claws to the point that it's now the daggers that are obsolete?


Kudos for catching on?

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Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
daggers still have way better passives
Daggers have better passives.

Daggers have better generic uniques for endgame (binos).

Daggers have more potential to scale with crit.

I'd say the trade-off between using a claw vs a dagger is in a good place right now.
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zSavage wrote:
Daggers have better passives.

Daggers have better generic uniques for endgame (binos).

Daggers have more potential to scale with crit.

I'd say the trade-off between using a claw vs a dagger is in a good place right now.


1. wrong, look at the tree again, claws passives are definitely better
2. wrong, howa and scourge are far better than bino's. Even Mortem Morsu is better.
3. Care to explain? Because of the 30% crit multi implicit? Claws having more crit multi on the tree and a far better implicit than 30% multi.
Last edited by Krayken on Apr 14, 2017, 4:05:44 PM
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Krayken wrote:

2. wrong, howa and scourge are far better than bino's. Even Mortem Morsu is better.


lol, balancing around uniques
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Krayken wrote:
1. wrong, look at the tree again, claws passives are definitely better
[..] Claws having more crit multi on the tree [..]

Claws:
40% Acc
33% IAS
146% Increased Phys Dam
--> 65% Crit Mult
190% Crit Chance
1.2% Life Leech
0.8% Mana Leech
(nobody cares about 50% Leech Rate due to Vaal Pact)

Daggers:
20% Acc
19% IAS
136% Increased Phys Dam
--> 114% Crit Mult
210% Crit Chance
30% Poison on Crit

So first of all, Daggers easily win in Passive Crit Mult, the Adder's Touch path alone beats the entire Claw assortment. Second, Poison has been stupendously powerful for multiple Leagues in a row now. If you're feeling generous to untyped Leech it's a toss-up at best, but personally I'd rate the Dagger clusters higher still.

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Krayken wrote:
2. wrong, howa and scourge are far better than bino's. Even Mortem Morsu is better.

Mortem Morsu is a 114 pDPS weapon, 7.87% Crit Chance, 40% Crit Mult
Bino's goes all the way to 248 pDPS, 9.45% Crit Chance, 25% Crit Mult

I don't know what drugs you are on, but Mortem Morsu ain't got shit on Bino's. It's uh.. not that good a Claw at all really?
Last edited by Vipermagi on Apr 14, 2017, 4:24:14 PM
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Vipermagi wrote:
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Krayken wrote:


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Krayken wrote:
2. wrong, howa and scourge are far better than bino's. Even Mortem Morsu is better.

Mortem Morsu is a 114 pDPS weapon, 7.87% Crit Chance, 40% Crit Mult
Bino's goes all the way to 248 pDPS, 9.45% Crit Chance, 25% Crit Mult

I don't know what drugs you are on, but Mortem Morsu ain't got shit on Bino's. It's uh.. not that good a Claw at all really?

Mortem Morsu is definitely better than Bino in poison builds when use in conjunction with added chaos damage. I've tested it in my blade flurry assassin.

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