[R.I.P.] life Mjolner done right by Rico - Juggernaut version - R.I.P. thx to "balancing" policy

Should I be trying for a 6L Kingsguard or is the increase accuracy attack speed more of a QoL thing?
Hi there,

first of all I have to say that I'm very interested in trying this build out.

Atm I have a lvl 91 Ngamahu's Flame Zerker with cyclone and molten strike (single target), a Xophs Blood and a +3 molten strike proj entchant helmet.
But even with all the investment, the build is outclassed by my DP Zerker. (Only in sigle target does it do sightly better).

So tldr: I want to respec that char and try something like this.

But I do have some questions:

a) Is the build able to handle Guardians and Shaper?
(this variante seams to be, but I am sick of VP: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1876438)
I'm not looking for a dedicated Boss Killer, but I would like to be able to do at least the Guardians comfortably!

b) Would Zerker be better at this?

c) Deaths Door vs Inya's?

d) OR: +1 Endurance Charge vs 6L Kingsguard?

Thank you in advance.
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Hello
Which helmet is better option for this build? Devoto's with 40% dmg discharge enchant or good rolled scold's? Sadly atm there isn't any scold's with discharge enchantment on poe.trade

@EDIT
Decided to go with scold's, tho i am missing dex for gems. Picked + 30 dex node on tree. Is it good decision or should i go for other way around, like getting dex on jewels or final tree will give me remaining dex?


Depends on your belt and APS. If u have TFU belt and can reach 4.5-4.7 APS with Cyclone and Scolds - this is the best option. If you cant reach that APS with Scolds but can with Devotos with 40% Discharge dmg than Devotos is a better option for u. IF u have rare belt than Scolds is a better option as you can easilly reach 3.5-3.9 APS cyclone with it.


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imrawn wrote:
Should I be trying for a 6L Kingsguard or is the increase accuracy attack speed more of a QoL thing?


Same goes here: depends if u can reach 4.5-4.7 Cyclone aps with 5l and with TFU belt.


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SeeD_MR wrote:
Hi there,

first of all I have to say that I'm very interested in trying this build out.

Atm I have a lvl 91 Ngamahu's Flame Zerker with cyclone and molten strike (single target), a Xophs Blood and a +3 molten strike proj entchant helmet.
But even with all the investment, the build is outclassed by my DP Zerker. (Only in sigle target does it do sightly better).

So tldr: I want to respec that char and try something like this.

But I do have some questions:

a) Is the build able to handle Guardians and Shaper?
(this variante seams to be, but I am sick of VP: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1876438)
I'm not looking for a dedicated Boss Killer, but I would like to be able to do at least the Guardians comfortably!

b) Would Zerker be better at this?

c) Deaths Door vs Inya's?

d) OR: +1 Endurance Charge vs 6L Kingsguard?

Thank you in advance.



a) It can faceroll Guardians with proper gear lvl. There are several guys following this build that I talked about Guardians and Shaper here or ingame. All confirmed that Guardians are easy with this build. Two of them tried Shaper as well and was able to kill him but not deathless (one in Harbinger, one in Standard).

b) Zerker would be better vs Guardians and Shaper and worse vs Uber Lab. Dunno which would be better vs Uber Atziri.

Take a look at this (its from several pages back from this thread):

Spoiler



c) Inya's. Death Doors are only better in Uber Lab (but with proper Pantheon setup not really needed anymore).

d) +1 endu charge belt. 6l doesnt add much on top of 5l if u can reach 4.5 - 4.7 APS with 5l.
Latest guides:
3.11 Loki's Rainbownuke:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2904155
3.7 CI CoC Discharge: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2605608
3.7 Juggernaut life Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1846362
Last edited by RicoKGB on Sep 21, 2017, 7:36:22 AM
Does any rolls on belt matter? Like i know aps probably matters bcs we need to get 4.5 aps cyclone, but we care about cooldown recovery speed too or nah?
Last edited by _Nektre_ on Sep 21, 2017, 12:07:34 PM
PSA: Vengeance+CoH+EleWeakness is ridiculously good. That is all. /bladewing out
GG GGG <3
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RicoKGB wrote:

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verdiville wrote:
yesterday i bought a +1 endurance charge belt with 17% cd recovery, and found discharge cooldown tooltip sit at 0.21 sec, the same as my previous belt with 20% cd recovery. just wonder how the cooldown was caculated.


0.25 * 0.17 = 0.0425

0.25 - 0.0425 = 0.2075

0.25 * 0.19 = 0.0475

0.25 - 0.0475 = 0.2025

Its rounding it down. You need perfect 20% roll to actually see the 0.20 in Discharge tooltip. But its just a cosmetic. Whats the actual difference between that .0025 s ? Short anserw: non.

thnx rico.
How do you run with RF? I'm burn in seconds lol.
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verdiville wrote:
yesterday i bought a +1 endurance charge belt with 17% cd recovery, and found discharge cooldown tooltip sit at 0.21 sec, the same as my previous belt with 20% cd recovery. just wonder how the cooldown was caculated.


0.25 * 0.17 = 0.0425

0.25 - 0.0425 = 0.2075

0.25 * 0.19 = 0.0475

0.25 - 0.0475 = 0.2025

Its rounding it down. You need perfect 20% roll to actually see the 0.20 in Discharge tooltip. But its just a cosmetic. Whats the actual difference between that .0025 s ? Short anserw: non.





Bought belt with 15 as / 16 cd recovery, now tooltip shows 0.22 discharge, tho if i calculated it right it should be 0.21 anyway. Have i messed up?

http://puu.sh/xFWTZ/07501d2371.jpg

0.25 * 0.16 = 0.04

0.25 - 0.04 = 0.21
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Belchonok wrote:
How do you run with RF? I'm burn in seconds lol.



Read this:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1846362/page/25#p14885672

and this:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1846362/page/23#p14870037


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Bought belt with 15 as / 16 cd recovery, now tooltip shows 0.22 discharge, tho if i calculated it right it should be 0.21 anyway. Have i messed up?

http://puu.sh/xFWTZ/07501d2371.jpg

0.25 * 0.16 = 0.04

0.25 - 0.04 = 0.21


Scratching my head now.

20%: 0.25 * 0.8 = 0.2 (0.2 rounded down)
19%: 0.25 * 0.81 = 0.2025 (0.21 rounded down)
18%: 0.25 * 0.82 = 0.205 (0.21 rounded down)
16%: 0.25 * 0.84 = 0.21 (0.21 rounded down)
15%: 0.25 * 0.85 = 0.2125 (0.22 rounded down)

It should show 0.21.

Latest guides:
3.11 Loki's Rainbownuke:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2904155
3.7 CI CoC Discharge: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2605608
3.7 Juggernaut life Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1846362
Last edited by RicoKGB on Sep 22, 2017, 4:42:57 AM
Well i can just hope that is some PoE rounding error and it will work with 4.5 aps cyc when i hit it, because i've spend much money on this belt ;c

@EDIT
PoB shows Discharge cooldown 0.22 too. I don't know what is going on :(

http://puu.sh/xFZhd/cafc8d2dcd.jpg

@@EDIT
Changing belt to 17% one in PoB shows 0.21 discharge cd. Although im still on leveling process, i will check it if it hits 5 times even with 0.22 showed discharge cd after i hit 4.5 aps cyclone and final tree.
Last edited by _Nektre_ on Sep 22, 2017, 5:31:26 AM

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