Most of Leaguestones are...But well you can still enjoy Breach + Beyond. Sigh.

Well... there's at least one player enjoying it.

No big drops. No big deal.

It's a different experience. Players who rush to maps in the first 24 hours and then complain that the game isn't satisfying simply aren't playing. They're working. They expect to get paid, and they're not.

Play for the fun of it.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

Well... there's at least one player enjoying it.

No big drops. No big deal.

It's a different experience. Players who rush to maps in the first 24 hours and then complain that the game isn't satisfying simply aren't playing. They're working. They expect to get paid, and they're not.

Play for the fun of it.

Problem is there is not much fun this time. I mention multiple times why exactly.

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SunL4D2 wrote:

Problem is there is not much fun this time. I mention multiple times why exactly.

Well, it's hard to tug on everyone's strings, I suppose everyone sat some leagues out and this might be your cue. They might buff as few stones and mods but it's unlikely anything will change about the core implementation.

I agree some mods are a bit bland, but look at it this way, you normally get one box per zone on average, with ambush mod your chances for a unique chest are doubled. I already found two before hitting merciless so it anecdotally works like a charm :)

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raics wrote:

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SunL4D2 wrote:

Problem is there is not much fun this time. I mention multiple times why exactly.

Well, it's hard to tug on everyone's strings, I suppose everyone sat some leagues out and this might be your cue. They might buff as few stones and mods but it's unlikely anything will change about the core implementation.

I agree some mods are a bit bland, but look at it this way, you normally get one box per zone on average, with ambush mod your chances for a unique chest are doubled. I already found two before hitting merciless so it anecdotally works like a charm :)

Well, I agree, it's pretty good League for levelling (Breach and many other Leagues considered great were basically just murdering people during levelling) so far.

There is no point in Unique strongboxes anymore though :)

Doesn't solve problem of most Leaguestones lacking any sort of Presence you can feel, embrace, enjoy or hate. Relate in any way, except of "Meh".

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SunL4D2 wrote:

Doesn't solve problem of most Leaguestones lacking any sort of Presence you can feel, embrace, enjoy or hate. Relate in any way, except of "Meh".

Aye, but I suppose it's the problem with the league, the earlier ones were kinda bland and some are so common or so nerfed and outgrown (like ambush or anarchy) they lack any kind of impact anymore. Attempts to make the Onslaught leaguestone attractive are fairly entertaining, though, 8/10, would read again.

Cruel Daresso's dream on beyond never gets old, miss pushing through that and you're a little girl.

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raics wrote:

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SunL4D2 wrote:

Doesn't solve problem of most Leaguestones lacking any sort of Presence you can feel, embrace, enjoy or hate. Relate in any way, except of "Meh".

Aye, but I suppose it's the problem with the league, the earlier ones were kinda bland and some are so common or so nerfed and outgrown (like ambush or anarchy) they lack any kind of impact anymore. Attempts to make the Onslaught leaguestone attractive are fairly entertaining, though, 8/10, would read again.

Cruel Daresso's dream on beyond never gets old, miss pushing through that and you're a little girl.

Yeah, I got Onslaught Leaguestone that give me Movement speed, it was pretty good.

Daresso Dream on Beyond Q_Q

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SunL4D2 wrote:

There would not be harm if last League of old Path of Exile would be totally awesome, right? But nope. No Fun is Allowed.

This League is illusion, Exile.

It's really sad to see posts like yours on the forum. There's some excellent constructive criticism in your post but then your conclusion is complete nonsense. This league is flat out awesome, and in its current iteration I could see it being rolled into standard (though the game will change tons with 3.0)

Would I like a random chance at Cadiro? Yes, but you have to understand that the reason things have value in this game is that they are rare. You can't have it all handed to you. The new league stones give fantastic control over encounters. Just take a second to think about the different things that you can do with maps now that we have prophecies, sextants, and league stones.

The one thing I would probably change would be to uncorrupt the league stones. This matches the rest of the game pretty well, but it would require a large nerf to drop rates. I guarantee that GGG thought about implementing it in a similar manner and decided not to though.

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majesw wrote:

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SunL4D2 wrote:

There would not be harm if last League of old Path of Exile would be totally awesome, right? But nope. No Fun is Allowed.

This League is illusion, Exile.

It's really sad to see posts like yours on the forum. There's some excellent constructive criticism in your post but then your conclusion is complete nonsense. This league is flat out awesome, and in its current iteration I could see it being rolled into standard (though the game will change tons with 3.0)

Would I like a random chance at Cadiro? Yes, but you have to understand that the reason things have value in this game is that they are rare. You can't have it all handed to you. The new league stones give fantastic control over encounters. Just take a second to think about the different things that you can do with maps now that we have prophecies, sextants, and league stones.

The one thing I would probably change would be to uncorrupt the league stones. This matches the rest of the game pretty well, but it would require a large nerf to drop rates. I guarantee that GGG thought about implementing it in a similar manner and decided not to though.

Thanks. This is conclusion I draw from my experience, because running most of Leaguestones is basically same as play Standard until you encounter singular event you probably encounter quite often anyways...It makes sense for me.

Which possibilites are you talking about when most of Leaguestones give 1 extra mob or pack of mobs we already encounter on daily basis? Sadly, unless this Leaguestones are GG rolled blue ones (gated behind RNG or trade), there is not much they add to experience.

Even then, I triggered The Twins (Rare monsters are doubled) with Talisman Leaguestone and guess what happened? This 3 Talisman mobs were excluded from Rare pool for this instance and Talisman Rare mobs were not doubled. Great example of possibilities. Nice fun interaction right there. Most of interesting possibilites were fixed by GGG before Legacy release and they will get to remaining once sooner or later.

Even more, knowing GGG they will most likely make sure to ninja nerf (Diviner's Boxes, Monstrous Treasure, etc. etc.) even this few good rolls that Leaguestones can roll... (づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ for the balance of course (づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ

Uncorrupt Leaguestones? Well, that would be great - everyone would Transmute - Alt - Augment Perandus, Breach, Ambush (this one can spawn guaranteed Cartographer's Strongbox) and few others for a few actually good mods.

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_Saranghaeyo_ wrote:

Otherwise league has been fine. I am running low on actual stones that I want to run, resulting in a pile of shit like Essence/Dom/Talisman while what I want is Perandus/Bloodlines/Breach etc

You aren't trading off the ones you don't want?

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_Saranghaeyo_ wrote:

Yeah the Perandus one is pretty bad, at this point you're just collecting coins waiting and it's not fun.

Otherwise league has been fine. I am running low on actual stones that I want to run, resulting in a pile of shit like Essence/Dom/Talisman while what I want is Perandus/Bloodlines/Breach etc

That sounds scary from person who plays Legacy League almoust non-stop since the start, and in a group min-maxing everything and reaching Merc Dried Lake in 5 hours...

I thought considering that Leaguestones store 5 uses and drops in a plenty, there would not be such issue.

There is vendor recipe for 3 Leaguestones resulting in random one. Or you meant you want blue Leaguestones in particular?

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raics wrote:

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_Saranghaeyo_ wrote:

Otherwise league has been fine. I am running low on actual stones that I want to run, resulting in a pile of shit like Essence/Dom/Talisman while what I want is Perandus/Bloodlines/Breach etc

You aren't trading off the ones you don't want?

From my persprective, trading Leaguestones is same as trading maps. We know why people don't trade low-level maps worth 1 alch or items worth 1 alch in general. It's hard to sell another item for 1 alch in a sea of items for 1 alch. Also it takes time to trade, so most people just don't even trade items below certain price. Or you meant Vendor recipe? In that case - meh.